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benEzra

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19. F-22 production *was* ended on the premise that the F-35 could also handle the air-superiority role.
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 10:41 AM
Sep 2016

In retrospect, that was a very, very ill-informed decision, based on now-falsified assumptions about when near-peers might deploy their own supercruising fifth-gen air superiority fighters The F-35 is a neat aircraft, but calling it the A-35 (or even F/A-35, with the emphasis on the A) would be more accurate; it is not and was never intended to be an air-superiority fighter, and the USAF now admits that. Capping F-22 production just as the production kinks had been worked out and the unit cost had fallen precipitously will likely go down as the worst decision Gates made during his tenure, and that's saying something.

The F-22 could certainly have been reconfigured for an A2G role like the F-15 was (prior to the F-15E, the F-15 was strictly an A2A platform); that wasn't the issue. It's that the F-35 was supposed to be a cheap, low-end, mass-produced, mostly-stealthy bomb truck with decent self-defense capability, so there was ostensibly no need to configure the F-22 as F/A. Now that the F-22 has been canceled, we will either be flying geriatric F-15's in the air superiority role, or else trying to make the F-35 fit that slot, because we don't have enough F-22's to cover our needs.

This aircraft is the aircraft the F-22 was scrapped for. iandhr Sep 2016 #1
The F-22 was not scrapped for the F-35 VMA131Marine Sep 2016 #3
Wouldnt it be more accurate to state that the intended goal is to have the f-35 capable of cstanleytech Sep 2016 #8
The F-35 cannot perform either air-to-air or air-to-ground operations. LS_Editor Sep 2016 #10
Only 13 F-35As are grounded. tammywammy Sep 2016 #11
Every time they set out to build Plucketeer Sep 2016 #12
F-22 production *was* ended on the premise that the F-35 could also handle the air-superiority role. benEzra Sep 2016 #19
As expensive as the F-35 is, the F-22 costs more per plane. Angleae Sep 2016 #6
ER, nope. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #13
WTF???????????????? OldRedneck Sep 2016 #14
No, the F-35B is not $337M tammywammy Sep 2016 #15
Are those airframe only prices? Also the DOD has the F-35B @ $265 million NWCorona Sep 2016 #17
It's not hydraulic fluid so stop saying that jmowreader Sep 2016 #16
F-22 program cost of $66.7 billion for 195 planes = $342 million each. Angleae Sep 2016 #18
That's the development cost amortized over only 187 airframes, plus unit production cost. benEzra Sep 2016 #20
No wonder it's so quiet here marybourg Sep 2016 #2
Tell Lockheed Martin we want our money back for such a piece of shit. Too big to fail? YOHABLO Sep 2016 #4
more useless shit Astraea Sep 2016 #5
They ought to call it the F-35 Lemon BlueEye Sep 2016 #7
It would cost too much to restart the line tammywammy Sep 2016 #9
The F-22 *could* be available for export. If the F-35 can be sold to Japan and other nations, benEzra Sep 2016 #21
Spruce Goose II 6chars Sep 2016 #22
Too funny! But at least Howard used his own money. At least I think he did. NWCorona Sep 2016 #23
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