This US summer is 'what global warming looks like'

[caseymoz]

45. Instead of collectivizing it . . .

. . . why not just take responsibility and act on your own self-loathing. Go off yourself. You could only help the earth doing that by your own estimate. Or are your entertained by the idea that everyone is ruining it and you're only helping?Sorry, what's happening is a function of population, of which your are one.

The earth means absolutely nothing to me if humankind doesn't survive. I don't care about "natural balances" or "uncorrupted nature." I have no connection to the earth without other human beings. They are my family, my friends, my neighbors, my children, my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren, everybody who I've ever loved and ever could love. Everything.

And if humankind becomes extinct, the earth can fall into the sun for all care. I'm not saving the earth for the earth because humankind isn't good enough for me. That's misanthopic, self-loathing idiocy.

My own thought: humankind is only doing what any other animal does and would do. There is no animal that's adapted to limit it's own population, and population pressure is really what's driving this. Every time in history humankind avoided a crash, most recently with the Green Revolution, it was followed by an increase in population.

There's no animal that limits its population. The environment limits it for the species. We've just been smart enough to keep avoiding the crash.

And we did what any other animal should do in good times: diversified our gene pool, and 7 billion people is very diverse.