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arithia

(455 posts)
71. actually
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 02:49 PM
Nov 2016

Yes, women are jailed for a number of reasons as rape victims in the US. Some police departments think it's the only way to force women to testify against their abuser- something no woman should be forced to do considering how many women are afraid (and for good reason) they will be killed if they do so.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/why-are-women-thrown-jail-after-theyre-raped-or-assaulted

They are also frequently evicted from apartments for calling the cops on an abusive partner. Many states legally allow this behavior.

Marital rape was legally allowed in the US until recently (talking last few decades vs centuries of US law and policy) and many judges are still dubious of the concept that women can say "no" when married. Many of these same types of judges have been known to shame rape victims on the stand, including minor children.

Fathers DO force daughters to marry whomever they deem fit. Have you heard of the FLDS? The Amish? There has been a case floating through the courts here in PA where an underage girl was given as a "gift" to a man for services rendered on their family farm. The girl was to be used as a wife and was subsequently "married" and sexually assaulted, bearing the man several children before authorities were alerted to the situation. The court is unsure what to do in this situation as this woman is now grown and is convinced she loves her rapist/captor.

I'm pointing out that misogyny isn't limited to Syria. That it is in fact a problem here in the "civilized west". Crimes against women happen here too because we civilized westerners use the same bullsh*t excuses to ignore the victims of domestic violence among us. Demanding that people adapt to another cultures' mores, while ignoring the fact that the same exact sh*t happens in that other culture, reveals cognitive bias.

As for your comment about "I see you're another who wants to pretend", please spare me your assumptive fallacies. You don't know me or what I think beyond what I have said and thus, your statement amounts to projection and personal attack.

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As if "asylum seekers" have the market cornered. Wilms Nov 2016 #1
Took 1 post for someone leftynyc Nov 2016 #2
What is the excuse for all those Western muderers google helps you find?? Wilms Nov 2016 #5
Why don't you post threads about those leftynyc Nov 2016 #7
I haven't changed the subject. I've addressed fathers who kill their kids... Wilms Nov 2016 #10
Spare me the leftynyc Nov 2016 #12
On it's face, what he did is awful. Wilms Nov 2016 #14
If you want to pretend the lives of women leftynyc Nov 2016 #32
Now, where did I say that?? Wilms Nov 2016 #43
it took one post because you blew a pretty loud dog whistle arithia Nov 2016 #22
Do women get put in prison leftynyc Nov 2016 #40
"Paradise"?? Wilms Nov 2016 #51
LOL - you mean the way leftynyc Nov 2016 #54
Now, where did I say you've ignored crimes against women in the west? Wilms Nov 2016 #60
THIS is what you wrote to me leftynyc Nov 2016 #64
I didn't write that. Wilms Nov 2016 #65
You're right leftynyc Nov 2016 #68
It was some other leftynyc Nov 2016 #69
Back up and try again without the defensiveness, please arithia Nov 2016 #77
I see absolutely nothing wrong leftynyc Nov 2016 #83
I know you see nothing wrong arithia Nov 2016 #87
LOL leftynyc Nov 2016 #88
Scroll up. You DID make assumptions arithia Nov 2016 #89
actually arithia Nov 2016 #71
And here we go leftynyc Nov 2016 #75
Are we reading the same threads? arithia Nov 2016 #79
You ONLY see that leftynyc Nov 2016 #81
No, I do not ONLY see that then arithia Nov 2016 #86
You're very wrong. The father maintained that the German police are responsible, because Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #78
Uh... did you actually read my post? arithia Nov 2016 #82
Only dogs hear dog whistles. AngryAmish Nov 2016 #80
yes culture has nothing to do with this...nothing at all snooper2 Nov 2016 #3
And the "culture" of the Western murderers you can find on google?? Wilms Nov 2016 #6
Vast majority of people do not murder each other...You got a daughter? snooper2 Nov 2016 #16
I'll bet the vast majority of immigrants do not murder each other. Wilms Nov 2016 #19
no answer as expected snooper2 Nov 2016 #33
What is the US or Britain doing to improve those situations JonLP24 Nov 2016 #74
Do statistics mean anything to you? Ron Obvious Nov 2016 #35
Does the word "anecdotal" mean anything to you? Wilms Nov 2016 #45
There is a cultural practice of throwing children out of windows? jberryhill Nov 2016 #9
Strawman! Wilms Nov 2016 #11
You see though, those guys are "islands of murder" ck4829 Nov 2016 #15
This was a crime committed leftynyc Nov 2016 #17
He is probably the only man ever to kill his wife for not obeying him jberryhill Nov 2016 #27
Perhaps you can point out where leftynyc Nov 2016 #31
Problem is the numbers aren't on your side... snooper2 Nov 2016 #18
Problem is that we have long gone past the notion of group responsibility for crime jberryhill Nov 2016 #30
The 'liberal' equivialant of Republcan's favorite deflection..."but but but they do it too...!" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #59
Agreed. "nothing compares to the mass indoctrination of peoples in authoritarian Muslim countries." Wilms Nov 2016 #62
The perp said that in Syria, he would have been out in a month. Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #66
How does that differ from the "she made me hit her" defense? Wilms Nov 2016 #67
"These asylum seekers" jberryhill Nov 2016 #4
I have no idea leftynyc Nov 2016 #8
Maybe he's a right-wing "christian". Wilms Nov 2016 #13
You mean the sort of Christians who kill their children by denying medical care? jberryhill Nov 2016 #26
Perhaps you have a link leftynyc Nov 2016 #28
Here's a whole bunch of them jberryhill Nov 2016 #37
None of those are even REMOTELY leftynyc Nov 2016 #42
Oh, I forgot - no man raised in "western culture" ever killed his spouse jberryhill Nov 2016 #46
Now you're flailing leftynyc Nov 2016 #50
"Still pretending life for women in Syria is a fucking picnic?" jberryhill Nov 2016 #53
More flailing leftynyc Nov 2016 #56
Well I could post links. Wilms Nov 2016 #39
Nice try.. whathehell Nov 2016 #36
Here's the thing jberryhill Nov 2016 #24
I think this is a culture problem leftynyc Nov 2016 #29
Reminder that the children and wife are also refugees nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #20
Yes, well, they should have stayed home and all died jberryhill Nov 2016 #25
They ought to send his ass back to Syria Blue_Tires Nov 2016 #21
Yup.. whathehell Nov 2016 #38
The good news for the xenophobes is... True Dough Nov 2016 #34
Yes, the poster is upset that a group of people he dislikes are killing one another jberryhill Nov 2016 #41
You could have the decency and grace leftynyc Nov 2016 #47
"I'm decrying a CULTURE" jberryhill Nov 2016 #52
WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Nov 2016 #57
+1 True Dough Nov 2016 #58
You certainly seem like someone who commands decency and grace! True Dough Nov 2016 #55
Are you saying Muslim culture, leftynyc Nov 2016 #63
I hear ya True Dough Nov 2016 #48
OMG at the excuses some are making. romanic Nov 2016 #70
Correct. Wilms Nov 2016 #72
Of course I didn't leftynyc Nov 2016 #76
He should cut his pecker off.... That'll punish her. keithbvadu2 Nov 2016 #73
Asylum seekers are wearing out their welcome in europe, Quantess Nov 2016 #84
If Don the Con gets elected leftynyc Nov 2016 #85
Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #90
I guess he couldn't handle his wife having the right to tell him to fuck off bravenak Nov 2016 #91
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