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41. I don't think she was a bad candidate

Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:45 PM

Dec 2016

Though I think there were issues for her being the candidate at this time
She could have (should have) overcome that with a vice-presidential candidate that didn't seem so much like her
For all the jokes we made of Pence, he was in good standing with the evangelical base of the party and that helped to make Il Douchebag acceptable
Kaine seemed too much like her; DLC member, favored free-trade and then suddenly came out opposed to the TTP, etc

There were acceptable candidates she could have chosen to ignite a portion of the voters she needed and were skeptical of her

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Bill Clinton: Comey 'cost' my wife the election [View all] mitty14u2 Dec 2016 OP

FIXED: Cost us "all" ffr Dec 2016 #1

Still blaming everyone else except the dems Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #2

The Dems voted for Hillary. But the undecideds broke for DT in the last few days. pnwmom Dec 2016 #7

No the voted for stein , Mr aleppo and trump Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #9

If they voted for Stein, aleppo or sniffles during the GE elmac Dec 2016 #14

It's not Democrats we're talking about, it's unaffiliated undecided voters. groundloop Dec 2016 #20

or like Detroit voters, 90,000 left their ballots BLANK. they voted on EVERYTHING except aPresident. Sunlei Dec 2016 #76

That figure was for the entire state MichMan Dec 2016 #78

Horsehockey reggaehead Dec 2016 #51

It sure didn't help, that's for sure Axolotls Dec 2016 #60

DWS didn't make things easy for Hillary. DK504 Dec 2016 #23

Which email or emails were so damaging? pnwmom Dec 2016 #64

His antics didn't help her any, either... perpetuated the impression that rules don't apply to them. JudyM Dec 2016 #34

Remember when Truth321 Dec 2016 #3

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #4

Almost certainly true. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #5

Lesson to draw: GOP tactics of keeping this non-story an issue in the News worked. ffr Dec 2016 #13

Comey might have been enough, she was already weak in the Rust Belt pstokely Dec 2016 #26

I was amazed that she lost the Dayton area too. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #31

I never saw a lot of tRump or HRC bumper stickers, I still see Bernie bumper stickers pstokely Dec 2016 #37

I saw almost no Clinton signs in my Dayton suburb, but not many... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #39

Democrats need to speak out more about voter suppression but Clinton is right here: JHan Dec 2016 #6

True, and at the same time imagine a voter so Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #8

Agreed... however there are many many people who simply don't pay much attention to politics groundloop Dec 2016 #22

Republican trolls on Youtube reveal all... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #35

Comey was out of line with the two letters, but the root of all of that was HRC not giving the SD karynnj Dec 2016 #10

Certainly true. JudyM Dec 2016 #32

Let's be clear, that's COMRADE Comey! Augiedog Dec 2016 #11

Comey will always be remembered as elmac Dec 2016 #12

I wonder if there will come a time when we find out about how he hatched the idea. ffr Dec 2016 #16

Doesn't Trump have a unit of ex-FBI suits surounding him? Coyotl Dec 2016 #44

So President Obama nominated a Russian agent to become FBI Director? totodeinhere Dec 2016 #50

Unfortunate, but why amazing? FiveGoodMen Dec 2016 #71

Yep Comey is one of the standingtall Dec 2016 #15

Whatever, Bill...anything to make Comey squirm is fine by me BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #17

draCOMEYian! cornball 24 Dec 2016 #18

The election was rigged bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #19

i could feel a change with the comey letter JI7 Dec 2016 #21

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she was a great candidate and more than DesertFlower Dec 2016 #28

if people are impressed by celebrity, DC will be a ghost turn down the tRump inauguration pstokely Dec 2016 #30

Enjoy your stay. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #29

I wouldn't be so quick Plucketeer Dec 2016 #36

How about for once progressives owned up to the nonsense as well? JHan Dec 2016 #47

The blinders you wear so dutifully? Plucketeer Dec 2016 #53

I vote dutifully but I don't follow politics*blindly... JHan Dec 2016 #54

Truth x 1000 radical noodle Dec 2016 #57

Exactly. yardwork Dec 2016 #61

Tired of hearing about Hillary being a "bad" candidate calguy Dec 2016 #33

I don't think she was a bad candidate rpannier Dec 2016 #41

maybe not a bad candidate, but maybe a bad campaign pstokely Dec 2016 #46

I disagree. yardwork Dec 2016 #63

The entitled poor losers lost us the election and now we all have Trump. yardwork Dec 2016 #62

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #25

Getting tied to NAFTA had NOTHING to do with it. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #27

Comey is a traitor... Sancho Dec 2016 #38

Don't Forget the Meeting RustyWheels Dec 2016 #40

I hate to agree with you but I have to admit that Bill meeting AG Lynch in a clandestine... spin Dec 2016 #45

BTW she just made some more comments on that meeting and her regret... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #52

Good point. And welcome to DU. n/t moonscape Dec 2016 #55

Actually, we don't know for sure if Comey wouldn't have found a reason to hold that news conference. StevieM Dec 2016 #58

He did violate his office. Rex Dec 2016 #42

And, he cost the rest of us a great President - the first Female President. wisteria Dec 2016 #43

Bill Clinton is the smartest and most astute politician there is. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #48

There was all kinds of shady things going on from all sides... chwaliszewski Dec 2016 #49

No Bill! Voter supression and hacking cost Hilary the election. dawn frenzy adams Dec 2016 #56

Election Meddling and Voter Surpession Were the Causes McKim Dec 2016 #67

I think the private email server was the biggest contributing factor hollowdweller Dec 2016 #59

where was comey in 2010, 2014 recount now Dec 2016 #65

without Comey, she might have squeaked it out narrowly pstokely Dec 2016 #66

If that's the case (and it certainly could be), the complacent campaign was the issue, not hughee99 Dec 2016 #69

I think her appearance with Al Gore in Florida made it clear that she knew she could lose and that StevieM Dec 2016 #74

100% Agreement man on the moonshine Dec 2016 #68

I don't ever want to hear a Democrat talk "Team of Rivals" again. backscatter712 Dec 2016 #70

The FBI needs to be investigated. pressbox69 Dec 2016 #72

And he is 100% correct. People can get in their feelings all they want. Sorceress Dec 2016 #73

didn't help. What did Ds expect from Republican party of birther crap, nazi luv and fox lies? Sunlei Dec 2016 #75

USA Today has an article that pretty much confirms this. An attorney from Calif. via the FOIA napi21 Dec 2016 #77

There were many factors, but this didn't help her any. n/t complain jane Dec 2016 #79

I think the biggest problem complain jane Dec 2016 #80