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HassleCat

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76. Of course it appears that way to you.

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:00 PM

Dec 2016

And to most people. Remember the descriptions of the 9-11 attackers as "cowardly?" We think it's OK to apply any negative description we choose to people we don't like. This is what makes you think it's OK to describe as authoritarian someone who defies authority. I can't stop you. I'm not the Emperor of Language, and you probably have the support of popular opinion and conventional wisdom.

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Washington State Will Enforce Penalties Against 4 'Faithless' Clinton Electors [View all] DonViejo Dec 2016 OP

Michael moore promised to pay all fines. Send him the bill. Johnathan146 Dec 2016 #1

I don't think he promised to pay electors that did what they did. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #4

His exact quote: brooklynite Dec 2016 #57

His full quote. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #59

Responsible post, thanks. Hortensis Dec 2016 #81

I just realized that I was irresponsible... Pay fines for electors that didn't vote for Trump. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #83

Yes. Didn't misunderstand what you meant to say. Hortensis Dec 2016 #84

I just used your post as a place to hang a better description. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #85

Well, they didn't vote for Trump kudzu22 Dec 2016 #65

His letter was to GOP electors. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #67

He guessed Trump would win, which none of us believed would happen. Rex Dec 2016 #8

He is wrong about everything else. duffyduff Dec 2016 #11

I cannot believe what I just read in your comment! Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #18

I can't believe it either zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #24

We've been hearing that from conservatives about Barbara Streisand QC Dec 2016 #64

That would be difficult as his films are about politics. Merlot Dec 2016 #37

With no claims to this date. n/t Mr. Evil Dec 2016 #40

"Stay out of politics" Captain1way Dec 2016 #56

Who else should "stay out of politics"? SnowCritter Dec 2016 #60

Which of his films was not about politics, professor? LanternWaste Dec 2016 #75

Attorney General should let dead dogs The_Voice_of_Reason Dec 2016 #2

That is a very good point. roamer65 Dec 2016 #3

i agree. it's a start. mopinko Dec 2016 #16

Why? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #38

Because the laws punishing electors for Quackers Dec 2016 #61

If electors are free to ignore results... then our votes really don't count. Adrahil Dec 2016 #68

That is correct. moda253 Dec 2016 #71

I hope someone takes this case to the Supreme Court. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #5

I hope someone dissolves the Electoral College. nt. Blue Idaho Dec 2016 #7

+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #63

Which is to say, you hope someone dissolves the Constitution. Igel Dec 2016 #72

Seriously? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #80

Yeah - who needs all those pesky constitutional amendments? Blue Idaho Dec 2016 #86

This should be interesting. Massacure Dec 2016 #6

If electors are not free to vote as they choose bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #9

They have no business fucking over the voters. duffyduff Dec 2016 #12

Odd that's how you see it bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #13

If true....we would be saying Madam President...No? Uggwearingdad Dec 2016 #15

Thank you for the obvious answer still_one Dec 2016 #41

How quickly we forget.... the Electoral College gave us Bush. groundloop Dec 2016 #17

The Florida AG was the state's chairman for Gore. Florida's Secretary of State was Bush's chair. n/t 24601 Dec 2016 #45

The HEs are anti-Clinton assholes. duffyduff Dec 2016 #28

In all the discussion about the EC, I've never seen an apologist even try to answer that question. JustinL Dec 2016 #25

Frankly, at this point I don;t give a shit what the founders wanted with respect to the EC. Adrahil Dec 2016 #69

Don't give them more attention and a bigger platform Recursion Dec 2016 #10

Does Anyone Suspect Trump Paying Them Off.... global1 Dec 2016 #14

No. BTW 2 Trump electors also defected today. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #20

I wouldn't put it past him. duffyduff Dec 2016 #27

Ironic that Hillary's electors turn against her IronLionZion Dec 2016 #19

I think one from Maine also voted for Bernie. progressoid Dec 2016 #34

That Maine elector's vote was ruled invalid and then he changed his vote to HRC. (NT) Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #62

The electors need not worry... RealityChik Dec 2016 #21

And what exactly is the "conscience" on which defection would be based? spooky3 Dec 2016 #23

Anybody... RealityChik Dec 2016 #87

The idea was to vote for a consensus Republican candidate rather than Trump. lapucelle Dec 2016 #52

What is the principle on which their defection was based? spooky3 Dec 2016 #22

Exactly. duffyduff Dec 2016 #26

There has been plenty of circumstantial evidence zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #31

Are you responding to someone else? I don't see any spooky3 Dec 2016 #35

sorry zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #54

Because we already had a Bush and a Dick IronLionZion Dec 2016 #55

How utterly futile. And asinine. GET. RID. OF. THE. EC. n/t CousinIT Dec 2016 #29

Good strategerie! HassleCat Dec 2016 #30

It is the idiot elector who was the "authoritarian." SunSeeker Dec 2016 #43

Thinking, thinking, thinking... HassleCat Dec 2016 #44

So when an elector decides he should override the vote of the public he was supposed to represent... SunSeeker Dec 2016 #46

No. HassleCat Dec 2016 #47

Yes, it fits quite well. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #48

You missed the critical part. HassleCat Dec 2016 #49

How is his being able to overrule the will of the many not a "concentration of power"? SunSeeker Dec 2016 #50

Electoral College is supposed to represent the will of the voters in each INDIVIDUAL state Lurks Often Dec 2016 #58

These rogue electors did not represent their state's vote. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #74

OK. Words mean whatever you want them to mean. HassleCat Dec 2016 #66

No. We can't communicate if we don't have a common understanding of what words mean. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #73

Of course it appears that way to you. HassleCat Dec 2016 #76

I am using the Merriam-Webster definition of "authoritarian." SunSeeker Dec 2016 #77

In case I didn't explain it well enough, I give up. HassleCat Dec 2016 #78

I did not "ignore a significant part of the dictionary definition." SunSeeker Dec 2016 #79

Colin Powell milestogo Dec 2016 #32

Colin Fucking Powell ? ... eom Kolesar Dec 2016 #53

A test case like this is long overdue jg10003 Dec 2016 #33

they need their asses kicked MFM008 Dec 2016 #36

This Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #39

I thought that was terribly petty eilen Dec 2016 #70

Good. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #42

This is why Trump won. yardwork Dec 2016 #51

Any fines will be thrown out in court. former9thward Dec 2016 #82