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77. I am using the Merriam-Webster definition of "authoritarian."

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:08 PM

Dec 2016

You are simply incorrect to state that I "think it's OK to describe as authoritarian someone who defies authority." I never said that and I do not think that.

I do not think "it's OK to apply any negative description we choose to people we don't like." But that does seem to apply to some people. I noticed during the primary, some Bernie fans were particularly fond of calling Hillary supporters authoritarians.

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Washington State Will Enforce Penalties Against 4 'Faithless' Clinton Electors [View all] DonViejo Dec 2016 OP

Michael moore promised to pay all fines. Send him the bill. Johnathan146 Dec 2016 #1

I don't think he promised to pay electors that did what they did. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #4

His exact quote: brooklynite Dec 2016 #57

His full quote. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #59

Responsible post, thanks. Hortensis Dec 2016 #81

I just realized that I was irresponsible... Pay fines for electors that didn't vote for Trump. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #83

Yes. Didn't misunderstand what you meant to say. Hortensis Dec 2016 #84

I just used your post as a place to hang a better description. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #85

Well, they didn't vote for Trump kudzu22 Dec 2016 #65

His letter was to GOP electors. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #67

He guessed Trump would win, which none of us believed would happen. Rex Dec 2016 #8

He is wrong about everything else. duffyduff Dec 2016 #11

I cannot believe what I just read in your comment! Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #18

I can't believe it either zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #24

We've been hearing that from conservatives about Barbara Streisand QC Dec 2016 #64

That would be difficult as his films are about politics. Merlot Dec 2016 #37

With no claims to this date. n/t Mr. Evil Dec 2016 #40

"Stay out of politics" Captain1way Dec 2016 #56

Who else should "stay out of politics"? SnowCritter Dec 2016 #60

Which of his films was not about politics, professor? LanternWaste Dec 2016 #75

Attorney General should let dead dogs The_Voice_of_Reason Dec 2016 #2

That is a very good point. roamer65 Dec 2016 #3

i agree. it's a start. mopinko Dec 2016 #16

Why? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #38

Because the laws punishing electors for Quackers Dec 2016 #61

If electors are free to ignore results... then our votes really don't count. Adrahil Dec 2016 #68

That is correct. moda253 Dec 2016 #71

I hope someone takes this case to the Supreme Court. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #5

I hope someone dissolves the Electoral College. nt. Blue Idaho Dec 2016 #7

+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #63

Which is to say, you hope someone dissolves the Constitution. Igel Dec 2016 #72

Seriously? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #80

Yeah - who needs all those pesky constitutional amendments? Blue Idaho Dec 2016 #86

This should be interesting. Massacure Dec 2016 #6

If electors are not free to vote as they choose bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #9

They have no business fucking over the voters. duffyduff Dec 2016 #12

Odd that's how you see it bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #13

If true....we would be saying Madam President...No? Uggwearingdad Dec 2016 #15

Thank you for the obvious answer still_one Dec 2016 #41

How quickly we forget.... the Electoral College gave us Bush. groundloop Dec 2016 #17

The Florida AG was the state's chairman for Gore. Florida's Secretary of State was Bush's chair. n/t 24601 Dec 2016 #45

The HEs are anti-Clinton assholes. duffyduff Dec 2016 #28

In all the discussion about the EC, I've never seen an apologist even try to answer that question. JustinL Dec 2016 #25

Frankly, at this point I don;t give a shit what the founders wanted with respect to the EC. Adrahil Dec 2016 #69

Don't give them more attention and a bigger platform Recursion Dec 2016 #10

Does Anyone Suspect Trump Paying Them Off.... global1 Dec 2016 #14

No. BTW 2 Trump electors also defected today. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #20

I wouldn't put it past him. duffyduff Dec 2016 #27

Ironic that Hillary's electors turn against her IronLionZion Dec 2016 #19

I think one from Maine also voted for Bernie. progressoid Dec 2016 #34

That Maine elector's vote was ruled invalid and then he changed his vote to HRC. (NT) Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #62

The electors need not worry... RealityChik Dec 2016 #21

And what exactly is the "conscience" on which defection would be based? spooky3 Dec 2016 #23

Anybody... RealityChik Dec 2016 #87

The idea was to vote for a consensus Republican candidate rather than Trump. lapucelle Dec 2016 #52

What is the principle on which their defection was based? spooky3 Dec 2016 #22

Exactly. duffyduff Dec 2016 #26

There has been plenty of circumstantial evidence zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #31

Are you responding to someone else? I don't see any spooky3 Dec 2016 #35

sorry zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #54

Because we already had a Bush and a Dick IronLionZion Dec 2016 #55

How utterly futile. And asinine. GET. RID. OF. THE. EC. n/t CousinIT Dec 2016 #29

Good strategerie! HassleCat Dec 2016 #30

It is the idiot elector who was the "authoritarian." SunSeeker Dec 2016 #43

Thinking, thinking, thinking... HassleCat Dec 2016 #44

So when an elector decides he should override the vote of the public he was supposed to represent... SunSeeker Dec 2016 #46

No. HassleCat Dec 2016 #47

Yes, it fits quite well. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #48

You missed the critical part. HassleCat Dec 2016 #49

How is his being able to overrule the will of the many not a "concentration of power"? SunSeeker Dec 2016 #50

Electoral College is supposed to represent the will of the voters in each INDIVIDUAL state Lurks Often Dec 2016 #58

These rogue electors did not represent their state's vote. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #74

OK. Words mean whatever you want them to mean. HassleCat Dec 2016 #66

No. We can't communicate if we don't have a common understanding of what words mean. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #73

Of course it appears that way to you. HassleCat Dec 2016 #76

I am using the Merriam-Webster definition of "authoritarian." SunSeeker Dec 2016 #77

In case I didn't explain it well enough, I give up. HassleCat Dec 2016 #78

I did not "ignore a significant part of the dictionary definition." SunSeeker Dec 2016 #79

Colin Powell milestogo Dec 2016 #32

Colin Fucking Powell ? ... eom Kolesar Dec 2016 #53

A test case like this is long overdue jg10003 Dec 2016 #33

they need their asses kicked MFM008 Dec 2016 #36

This Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #39

I thought that was terribly petty eilen Dec 2016 #70

Good. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #42

This is why Trump won. yardwork Dec 2016 #51

Any fines will be thrown out in court. former9thward Dec 2016 #82