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muriel_volestrangler

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101. As we saw, Sven Lau was born in Germany.

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 04:11 PM

Dec 2016

Where the people with him were born, I don't know. But I don't think laws that say doing something is legal for people born in a country, but not for those born elsewhere, are advisable in general.

"Someone trying the religious police thing has a very good chance of being involved with terrorism, aiding terrorism, or knowing someone that is."

Which might manage to be the basis for surveillance of them, but not for making it illegal.

"An immigrant coming into the country to change it" could apply to many people who tried to change a place for good reasons - Gandhi in South Africa, for instance. The idea that immigrants should face restrictions on their activities is dangerous.

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Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin; multiple injuries reported [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 OP

What an awful day Sanity Claws Dec 2016 #1

Sounds like a horrible accident philosslayer Dec 2016 #2

What about this sounds like an accident? brooklynite Dec 2016 #4

shit, not a terrorist attack too??? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #5

Still inconclusive. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #8

For a group that is supposedly progressive philosslayer Dec 2016 #24

Its easy in this story. Its not really jumping when its so obvious 7962 Dec 2016 #27

You should heed your own advice. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #40

Truck was hijacked. christx30 Dec 2016 #49

Is there a single topic or subject you have been correct on? snooper2 Dec 2016 #85

The first thing I thought was ice jmowreader Dec 2016 #29

Wow melman Dec 2016 #6

You're certainly not a subtle as you may think LanternWaste Dec 2016 #23

Christman markets are one of my favorite things about Germanic countries Retrograde Dec 2016 #35

At this point it doesn't look like it was an accident. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #42

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Oh you... xor Dec 2016 #72

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Human Cartoon. nt Codeine Dec 2016 #78

Update: 9 dead, 50 injured brooklynite Dec 2016 #3

From the video I've seen, this was a semi, like the truck attack in France. brooklynite Dec 2016 #7

Looks like a terrorist attack on an iconic symbol of German culture TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #10

The British press is calling it the same term "Lorry" FreeState Dec 2016 #11

We know....... Yorkist Dec 2016 #9

And either way, people are dead.... regardless of whether you hold your breath LanternWaste Dec 2016 #25

I don't understand get the red out Dec 2016 #28

Nothing at all wrong with calling evil what it is. 7962 Dec 2016 #31

Well.... Yorkist Dec 2016 #36

When someone murders people Devil Child Dec 2016 #95

+1 EX500rider Dec 2016 #97

Police think it was deliberate muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #12

Driver caught and.... Yorkist Dec 2016 #15

Makes no difference TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #63

Because the dead don't matter to Merkel. christx30 Dec 2016 #66

No... Yorkist Dec 2016 #73

But if he were a long resident or native born TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #82

Sunni Islam is wearing out its welcome in Europe LittleBlue Dec 2016 #13

What do you mean a few years of this ? Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #17

I pretend to know the full measure of a stranger's tolerance and bigotry as well LanternWaste Dec 2016 #26

Great comeback. Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #38

TRUE refugees might actually BE welcomed. Much of this influx is a scam. 7962 Dec 2016 #32

Three naive fools smiling like they accomplished something LittleBlue Dec 2016 #53

Really. Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #81

Wahabbism is responsible JonLP24 Dec 2016 #105

I am right now in Germany - they are reporting on TV live 9 people dead over 50 injured Pachamama Dec 2016 #14

Sky News is live and interviewing witnesses Warpy Dec 2016 #18

DW: Suspected driver has been arrested. moondust Dec 2016 #16

Strange. Yorkist Dec 2016 #20

And... moondust Dec 2016 #22

Unless Yorkist Dec 2016 #30

DW.com: +++ Truck attack in Berlin kills nine - live updates +++ mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #19

Some video links: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #21

Islamic Terrorism strikes again Devil Child Dec 2016 #33

I just got home to Germany from Brussels DFW Dec 2016 #34

Ms Merkel.... Yorkist Dec 2016 #37

Not really DFW Dec 2016 #43

So soon after the Freiburg rape-murder news?? I think Merkel's in real trouble. Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #74

Shhhhh... Don't bring up Freiburg. Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #103

This truck shit is one of the tactics promoted by Isis The_Casual_Observer Dec 2016 #76

We were in Berlin in mid-November 2013 when they were setting up Christmas markets mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #39

ISIS taking credit for the attack oberliner Dec 2016 #41

Whether it is them or not, they won't be publicly credited immediately DFW Dec 2016 #44

All rescue work is completed: 45 wounded and death toll remains at 9 Coventina Dec 2016 #45

12 deaths now reported by FAZ Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #60

"Lies, lies, all lies" Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #46

Huh? hrmjustin Dec 2016 #47

You're right... Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #50

I take it you believe these events did not happen or some other opinion? hrmjustin Dec 2016 #52

No, they DID happen. Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #54

I think you need the /s tag. NT mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #57

Just like with Kalamazoo this year, Knoxville in 2008, or Colorado Springs in 2015 ck4829 Dec 2016 #58

Oh I see. You are mocking those who minimize these events and who is responsible for them. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #62

Btw... GO BLUE !!!! Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #64

. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #65

???? TubbersUK Dec 2016 #48

Okay no shenmue Dec 2016 #51

German media reporting that the terrorist is a Pakistani refugee LittleBlue Dec 2016 #55

Poor guy... Rustyeye77 Dec 2016 #59

You could ask Malala Yousafzai muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #61

They have an insurgency problem in one part of the country. LittleBlue Dec 2016 #67

You are quite right... Imajika Dec 2016 #77

What is the limit of Muslims you want to impose on Europe? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #80

No, I've decided it isn't such a grand idea to accept refugees... Imajika Dec 2016 #86

International law, basic human rights and decency - all out of the window for you? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #88

I direct your attention to this: christx30 Dec 2016 #89

Yeah, street preaching is a shitty thing to do muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #91

That's not street preaching. christx30 Dec 2016 #92

No, it is street preaching - telling people what their religion says how they should behave muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #94

Any time you try to limit someone's right to do something christx30 Dec 2016 #96

Yes, and pushing your religion on someone in public is street preaching muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #99

I'd say it's a shitty thing to do, christx30 Dec 2016 #100

As we saw, Sven Lau was born in Germany. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #101

Okay, let's try this again with an example that might make sense to you... Imajika Dec 2016 #90

Net migration from Pakistan in 2015 - 22,000 (see #84) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #93

Pakistani and Afghan refugees are the worst at TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #83

Here's the figures for German immigration in 2015 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #84

True. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #102

Via Twitter: Killer a refugee from Pakistan flamingdem Dec 2016 #56

The police don't believe that he actually did it. Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #87

Just in time for DC's 12th Annual Downtown Holiday Market mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #68

More terrorism smh. romanic Dec 2016 #70

Death toll is up to 12 oberliner Dec 2016 #71

Link to BBC latest nitpicker Dec 2016 #79

Police have released the man arrested after the Berlin truck attack muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #98

Berlin truck attack: police 'seeking Tunisian man' muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #104