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needledriver

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18. Whether you think it or not

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 02:32 AM

Jan 2017

The Militia clause of the Second Amendment is simply one example of why the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It is by no means a limitation on the right, nor is the right exclusive to members of the militia. The Supreme Court states that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right. However, if you insist that being in the Militia be a prerequisite to bearing arms, keep in mind that the Militia laws define membership in the Militia loosely enough that practically every adult in the United States is a member of the unorganized Militia, and that Militia service requires a weapon suitable for military service. So, membership in the Militia would require that I not own an "assault weapon" (semi automatic tactical sporting rifle) but an actual assault rifle (fully automatic hand held machine gun). Are you sure this is what you want to push for?

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