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238. There weren't the votes for single payer.. you can criticize but

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:11 AM

Jan 2017

Obamacare was a stepping stone to single payer and now those who couldn't afford insurance will have nothing. Those with pre-existing conditions will be without insurance.

Those are the people who are the victims.. That's who President Obama is looking out for.

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Obama says Sanders' supporters helped undermine Obamacare [View all] DonViejo Jan 2017 OP

The increase in premiums did not help astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #1

Since almost all of those increases were paid for by the government, pnwmom Jan 2017 #15

Anecdotally I heard a lot of folks astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #49

Rates had been increasing for decades. But since the ACA subsidized payments pnwmom Jan 2017 #73

They had solid numbers astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #81

our premium went up a lot ( Oklahoma) but with the subsidy we pay less OKNancy Jan 2017 #84

We don't trivialize their experiences. We just have an inconvenient habit of looking past .... Hekate Jan 2017 #95

Reminds me of someone's POSUCS post. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #117

Uh-huh Hekate Jan 2017 #119

Bingo. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #125

Oh yeah mcar Jan 2017 #263

This sheshe2 Jan 2017 #126

I guess checking facts (remember them?) NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #128

Non sequitur. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2017 #156

My daughter-in-law's premiums went up by about 40% this year. SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #186

"Out of pocket" Sedona Jan 2017 #228

When I was referring to out of pocket I was meaning her deductible. SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #273

Pre- ACA increases,,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2017 #75

Anecdotally we've had a few here Hekate Jan 2017 #90

I heard Hillary was a flawed candidate, also, from the same people who now OWN Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #106

Good point, wonder how many progressive ideas will pass in the next two to four years. Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #279

The government subsidy zentrum Jan 2017 #145

Well said. (eom) CanSocDem Jan 2017 #229

Exactly... RazBerryBeret Jan 2017 #289

Except for most people that's not how it works. sherihah Jan 2017 #149

yea potus shouldnt have raised premiums like he did Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #39

Between 2000 and 2010, premiums rose up to 150% - who did you blame then? blm Jan 2017 #59

i blame the insurance companies for the rates they set Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #63

they could've chosen to NOT raise rates, but, they get cover from RW media blaming ACA blm Jan 2017 #66

Oh damn, another inconvenient truth Hekate Jan 2017 #103

And you think premiums wouldn't rise if ObamaCare was not in place? LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #43

It was bad timing is all astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #55

Oh please stop with the victim whining NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #130

Right, it had no impact on the election astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #134

Rubio is responsible for much of the increase in insurance premiums by eliminating Akamai Jan 2017 #290

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #46

He even got Politifacted over it astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #51

The nominal increase in premiums overall (yes, there were some that were large, but... George II Jan 2017 #98

Not to mention that the increased premiums paid for better insurance TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #112

Precisely. Remember when there were a couple of hundred thousand people who had to change... George II Jan 2017 #114

my basic obamacare plan still had a $75 a month premium. another plan was no premium costs. Sunlei Jan 2017 #231

Sanders' attacks on President Obama did not help his cause with some demographic groups Gothmog Jan 2017 #2

BS wanted President Obama primaried in 2012.. he just didn't want to Cha Jan 2017 #160

Hmmmmmm Me. Jan 2017 #164

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm backatcha Cha Jan 2017 #165

I'm pretty sure both Obama and Hillary would prefer single player. LisaM Jan 2017 #3

Like the minimum wage - they railed against Clinton because she back first an increase to $12.... George II Jan 2017 #10

Exactly. Amimnoch Jan 2017 #50

How did republicans kill the government option? Nt hughee99 Jan 2017 #116

3 bills passed by Dems in the House, but killed by cloture and the Senate finance committee. Amimnoch Jan 2017 #123

The repigs and Lieberman had some help ... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #175

Right on! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #305

"In other words, he's correcting the spin that a 46% unfavorable opinion doesn't mean 46% suffragette Jan 2017 #346

Or free college tuition. Dream Girl Jan 2017 #78

Now they'll get a big fat nuthin' Hekate Jan 2017 #99

Instead of progressing slower they're going to be going backward. George II Jan 2017 #100

And downhill. In a go-kart. Hekate Jan 2017 #102

And blaming Clinton and DWS the whole way. Charles Bukowski Jan 2017 #118

Some of them would rather see the world burn NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #132

And some would rather feel superior OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #188

Fighters? NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #267

As I said, some like to feel superior. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #270

To be sure, I do feel superior NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #335

Keep feeling' it. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #336

Deepak Chopra?? Really? NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #337

Superiority, really? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #338

Stuck on the "superiority" thing, eh? NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #339

Yes, it's despicable. And embarrassing for a Democrat. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #340

"I love that you have to keep posting" NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #342

Oh yes, please threaten me that you won't respond any more. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #343

There is a measure of irony in your allegation that "some like to feel superior..." LanternWaste Jan 2017 #344

I think it's been years since you've weighed in on one of my threads. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #345

But this is a case of letting the good be the enemy of the perfect. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #22

I don't recall anyone ridiculing single payer. LisaM Jan 2017 #32

Excuse me? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #41

It may be brer cat Jan 2017 #82

OK, sure. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #168

That person obviously had/has something against Obama, and those comments are "anecdotal"* George II Jan 2017 #92

What world do you live in? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #173

I was referring to the author of the blog to which you linked, not Rahm Emanuel: George II Jan 2017 #177

And the comments are they still unsubstantiated OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #181

So then, who was in that "private meeting" where that was said? George II Jan 2017 #237

OMG. Look at the LINKS. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #285

Hold your powder! I support single payer. LisaM Jan 2017 #93

I actually don't recall any of Clinton's surrogates even bringing up the TPP... George II Jan 2017 #96

List OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #180

Two VERY bad examples! Both of those (Kerry and Perez) are members.... George II Jan 2017 #236

Voters confusing what Obama supports for what Clinton supports is ludicrous? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #286

Jerry Seinfeld: "I wish I had the last 20 seconds of my life back". Have a great night! George II Jan 2017 #321

Oh snappy. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #326

I believe Obama supported single payer. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #97

Her being a realist does not mean that she doesn't think it's the best system. LisaM Jan 2017 #142

I think Hillary's reason for opposing single payer at that time -Jan, 2016 is valid-and she clearly riversedge Jan 2017 #143

No one who fought for single player or who supported Sanders OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #174

Anyone who voted Stein or didn't bother to go to the polls helped Trump. lapucelle Jan 2017 #253

And you have no evidence that the people OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #280

"Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it." lapucelle Jan 2017 #288

You continue to claim third party voters being responsible while OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #292

I'm not insulting people who fight for better. lapucelle Jan 2017 #296

Um, you are. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #300

"Put out a product"? lapucelle Jan 2017 #303

Narcissistic no shows? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #304

Yes, narcissistic no shows not inspired enough to get off their butts and go to the polls. lapucelle Jan 2017 #312

In your view it was the right thing. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #315

You don't get to define my view, and I don't have to engage lapucelle Jan 2017 #318

I'm not trying to define your view. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #319

So the 300,000+ Democrats in Florida truebluegreen Jan 2017 #327

Why would they be less responsible? lapucelle Jan 2017 #330

First my apologies. I responded to the wrong post. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #331

That is not ridicule mcar Jan 2017 #264

It is. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #275

Obama did not ridicule mcar Jan 2017 #291

Apparently because you feel the same as he does, OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #293

Umm, what? mcar Jan 2017 #297

Whatevs. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #298

What in the holy hell are you talking about? mcar Jan 2017 #299

See above: OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #301

No, you can't read between my lines mcar Jan 2017 #306

As I said previously, whatevs. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #311

THIS! calimary Jan 2017 #104

Of course they would.. and that's why they started out with something Cha Jan 2017 #309

Truth is truth. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #4

Perhaps your 'side' of the party. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #7

You mean an actual Democrat? WhiteTara Jan 2017 #11

You mean the corporate dems. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #68

your name says it all WhiteTara Jan 2017 #76

You win the back and forth, but... mpcamb Jan 2017 #85

Does someone... tonedevil Jan 2017 #210

So go follow WhiteTara Jan 2017 #240

Not going anywhere... tonedevil Jan 2017 #257

Well, that is a less rude WhiteTara Jan 2017 #259

Actual Democrat... tonedevil Jan 2017 #260

Good to know. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #262

Bernie is the best friend our party has ever seen, he is only trying to steer us in the right (left) putitinD Jan 2017 #86

No, he's not. Hillary Won the Primary by almost 4 Million Votes and Cha Jan 2017 #226

Exactly Tara. Cha Jan 2017 #151

Well the ACA was a Heritage Foundation contrived plan in the first place. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #5

How dare you undermine it by pointing out it was a Republican plan! OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #13

The "Republican plan" that no actual Republicans supported in the '90's emulatorloo Jan 2017 #135

And Romney. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #166

What we have now is so much better than what we had before the ACA..... George II Jan 2017 #16

Any idea why President Obama "changed his mind?".... DonViejo Jan 2017 #17

Who said he "changed his mind"? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #25

Here you go... DonViejo Jan 2017 #26

You miss my point. Not who on DU typed that, OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #44

I remember Obama supporting single-payer health system as he first ran for president. Akamai Jan 2017 #294

You do know that the public option OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #295

My bet is because he probably didnt see a viable way to a single payer system that those cstanleytech Jan 2017 #33

They couldn't block anything at the time OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #48

There are plenty of ways to make passing bills difficult either procedural or politically cstanleytech Jan 2017 #83

Actually, there aren't. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #167

Ah, those were the days, eh? Ligyron Jan 2017 #109

Ditto. nt. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #189

So? It was the only thing we could get past a filibuster. The 60th vote pnwmom Jan 2017 #18

Lieberman was such an ass mdbl Jan 2017 #69

Nobody forced Sanders to vote "yes" on the ACA in 2009. lapucelle Jan 2017 #52

That doesn't even make sense. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #193

So when President Obama brer cat Jan 2017 #239

Bernie didn't run on overturning the ACA killbotfactory Jan 2017 #247

I guess two Pinochios isn't really that bad. lapucelle Jan 2017 #251

From the completely neutral Washington post killbotfactory Jan 2017 #265

Were the stories false? lapucelle Jan 2017 #272

Pragmatism is a strategy that only some are allowed to embrace. Others get villified. lapucelle Jan 2017 #249

Fascinating how that works, isn't it? brer cat Jan 2017 #250

Wow -- your statement again makes no sense. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #281

I have never said he shouldn't have voted for it. brer cat Jan 2017 #307

I do understand. That's what you don't understand. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #313

I never told anyone to shut up brer cat Jan 2017 #314

I agree this is wasted effort. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #316

Obama campaigned on his plan having a "public option".... PoliticAverse Jan 2017 #61

You are just bashing.. you have no idea what happened. Cha Jan 2017 #152

Not me. Jane Austin Jan 2017 #6

It's the outrageous premiums each month that undermined Obamacare. $1500/mo for two people! Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #8

But I still am happy with it as a first step - especially the pre-existing condition part. n/t Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #14

i am a single person on a cobra and consider myself lucky mopinko Jan 2017 #21

You haven't ever paid COBRA payments or you wouldn't find that outrageous. pnwmom Jan 2017 #23

True. And when I had to pay COBRA payments, it cost me about $700/month. calimary Jan 2017 #28

I had to do the same thing for the same reason. And we were both pnwmom Jan 2017 #37

Meaningless without knowing the person's income treestar Jan 2017 #70

Premium costs are based on age. It's a third of our income. Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #89

I hear you Kilgore Jan 2017 #163

The Chicago apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #9

i *don't* remember this orleans Jan 2017 #29

I'm no Bernie swooner, but I didn't feel like he trashed ACA Skittles Jan 2017 #12

Thanks, Skittles; with you, as I wrote below, elleng Jan 2017 #20

You are correct. Read this full quote and see if the headline of this op is not... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #194

I believe your assessment is correct, Hassin Bin Sober Skittles Jan 2017 #325

It's a chicken and egg thing, imo Bradical79 Jan 2017 #268

Sorry, Sir, I must take issue elleng Jan 2017 #19

That's the headline. Obama doesn't seem to have used the term "undermine" LisaM Jan 2017 #27

I suspected that to be the case, LisaM. elleng Jan 2017 #38

Don't get me started! LisaM Jan 2017 #47

HA! elleng Jan 2017 #53

But in all of the "examination" of events,some insist that no matter the issue, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #31

Right, guill. elleng Jan 2017 #42

Exactly. +100 Duppers Jan 2017 #221

Isn't Obamacare really just Romneycare from the 90's? jalan48 Jan 2017 #24

Exactly....This LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #36

It also ran over budget and saw double digit annual increases CentralMass Jan 2017 #58

So did ALL insurance plans. And they will until we control drug costs. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #170

Yes, but the issues was that both plans were sold as reducing costs. CentralMass Jan 2017 #172

They still might have. When other states were having 20% annual increases, pnwmom Jan 2017 #176

I was a life long Ma resident until 2015.. My own HMO + others CentralMass Jan 2017 #192

Your experience with multiple years of double digit increases doesn't seem typical. pnwmom Jan 2017 #200

The issues us that both RomneyCare and the ACA promised to CentralMass Jan 2017 #207

For a short period of time costs went up but then costs went down. pnwmom Jan 2017 #211

Admittedly im no policy expert here but my anecdotal experience CentralMass Jan 2017 #219

If so Republican opposition now is suspect treestar Jan 2017 #74

They have moved further to the right as have the Democrats. jalan48 Jan 2017 #88

This OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #182

Because a Black President signed it into law. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #105

Bingo! treestar Jan 2017 #108

That's what those say who want to bash the Presidentl Cha Jan 2017 #154

Not sure who "Those" are but in any event, I'm not into group think. jalan48 Jan 2017 #245

Nevertheless that's what they say. Cha Jan 2017 #310

So? Romney managed to get elected Gov. of one of the most liberal states in the country. pnwmom Jan 2017 #169

So, that is the health care program Obama chose to copy for his program. jalan48 Jan 2017 #244

No, and I know YOU know it. We couldn't have passed ANYTHING pnwmom Jan 2017 #317

- Bigredhunk Jan 2017 #30

this is why dems lose Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #62

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #34

IKR? Wouldn't even discuss single payer, then a public option was off the table. MindPilot Jan 2017 #54

Single Payer couldn't even get passed in Vermont. President Obama Cha Jan 2017 #225

Thanks to those continually bashing the lack of single payer we'll be without the ACA altogether. George II Jan 2017 #243

That's a term that has no currency any more. Probably not for a couple of decades. Hekate Jan 2017 #107

You have got to be joking... cannabis_flower Jan 2017 #146

President Obama is speaking the truth.. too bad for those Cha Jan 2017 #157

This Is BS.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #35

I'm glad President Obama is telling it exactly like it. Too bad everyone is Cha Jan 2017 #223

This message was self-deleted by its author Amimnoch Jan 2017 #40

We have to be realistic. HassleCat Jan 2017 #45

So who doesn't want single-payer? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #56

I am in awe of Bernie Sanders' remarkable power. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #57

Continue to barnstorm the country in the service of selling books lapucelle Jan 2017 #87

! brer cat Jan 2017 #252

Mr. Hammer meet Mr. Nailhead. BunkieBandit Jan 2017 #101

No, he didn't do it single handedly.. if you're paying attention there Cha Jan 2017 #158

He made Baby Jesus cry!!! QC Jan 2017 #208

He's right. We witnessed it right here. We've never been further away from single payer than we... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #60

Yeah, now they're all in denial. Cha Jan 2017 #159

What's really sad is that ACA could possibly have been the best stepping stone to single payer. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #178

Right.. excellent point.. it very well could have led to Single Payer Cha Jan 2017 #184

There was no realistic chance for single payer Progressive dog Jan 2017 #64

While most Democrats were disappointed Obama bailed on Single Payer before Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #65

Right there with you, Dustlawyer. JudyM Jan 2017 #323

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #67

Way to to go Obama - divide the party further. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #71

+1 SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #122

This. retrowire Jan 2017 #127

The thing is, the headline doesn't even accurately describe the point Obama is making. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #187

There will always be people who want to blame Bernie. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #195

The Presdient is speaking the truth.. too bad for those who can't Cha Jan 2017 #155

+1 OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #196

Oh President Obama isn't the one who divided the Party.. don't you Cha Jan 2017 #205

He is spot on bravenak Jan 2017 #72

He is right. The general air of unpopularity treestar Jan 2017 #77

Yep, its all Bernies fault elmac Jan 2017 #79

There were never enough votes for single payer. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #137

I noticed you didn't get a response to Bernie's own words. Wonder why? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #328

Lol....no clue????!!!1? sheshe2 Jan 2017 #329

Nope.. you're putting words in President Obama's mouth.. he didn't Cha Jan 2017 #209

I think sort of misleading article title hollowdweller Jan 2017 #80

"The mandatory part"? yallerdawg Jan 2017 #94

Now all the complainers sold out to the banksters and the corporates...... Historic NY Jan 2017 #91

No. Obama undermined the American public when he gave up the public option Roland99 Jan 2017 #110

No sheshe2 Jan 2017 #138

You do realize that single payer and the public option are two different things, right? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #197

Facts get confusing at times Roland99 Jan 2017 #235

You've exactly made President Obama's point. Get your facts straight Cha Jan 2017 #222

Except I'm not. The public option was tossed aside at the beginning Roland99 Jan 2017 #234

If he had tried pushing the corporate owned Dems we could have had the single payer Scalded Nun Jan 2017 #111

They never had the votes for single payer. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #139

Saying that single payer would be better is not Bettie Jan 2017 #113

As well it should! ananda Jan 2017 #115

Of COURSE it would be "so much better" NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #136

I posted above, twice. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #140

I know, my friend NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #266

He's wrong to take it personally. moondust Jan 2017 #120

President Obama is not wrong.. he's speaking the truth. Cha Jan 2017 #190

What you and he are saying moondust Jan 2017 #256

President Obama speaks the truth. Cha Jan 2017 #282

Bull Shit..What Obama got with his Obamacare was nothing more than a bill INdemo Jan 2017 #121

What President Obama got was helping People who couldn't afford Health Cha Jan 2017 #227

i think I mentioned that advantage ...but the ACA INdemo Jan 2017 #241

There is enough blame the go around. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #124

Ha Ha, After All The Shit Sanders Has Said About Obama otohara Jan 2017 #129

You Win the DAMN Thread! Exactly, Otohara! Cha Jan 2017 #161

Thanks Cha otohara Jan 2017 #274

No, I didn't know you met Hillary! Cha Jan 2017 #284

That's absurd. LS_Editor Jan 2017 #131

You are correct, if not for AARP & other groups sounding the alarm on dae Jan 2017 #198

A few things that really hurt public opinion of the ACA IMO MichMan Jan 2017 #133

left/right extremes always hurt. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2017 #141

The problem is not that they think Obamacare is a failure."... per the rest of the quote Talk Is Cheap Jan 2017 #144

Yep bad headline. Obama does have a IDGAF attitude also. n/t underpants Jan 2017 #254

My premium went down Politicub Jan 2017 #147

Yes, a point we've tried to make for six years. MadamPresident Jan 2017 #148

Sanders wanted President Obama Primaried in 2012.. but, he didn't Cha Jan 2017 #150

The only thing is, that isn't remotely the point Obama was making. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #199

Bernie supporters aren't the victims here. BainsBane Jan 2017 #217

Which plan is better? The ACA or Single Payer? Fearless Jan 2017 #153

The only plan that was politically POSSIBLE was better. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #171

At no point would anyone who was voting for the ACA not vote for it Fearless Jan 2017 #191

I think he put the cart before the horse. dogman Jan 2017 #162

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #179

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2017 #183

Obama is right that Berniue was promoting single payer, as were a lot of us from day one. napi21 Jan 2017 #185

President Obama is right. Cha Jan 2017 #201

Listen LittleGirl Jan 2017 #202

No surprise there. Although, his supporters were following the standard set by Sanders himself. Lil Missy Jan 2017 #203

I know Lil Missy.. it's a fact and now they're trying to deny it. don't Cha Jan 2017 #212

I like the president HassleCat Jan 2017 #204

Rabid zealots rarely do good in any situations. JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #206

I have to agree with President Obama on this one. I thought it was strange because underthematrix Jan 2017 #213

It took 80 years to get it passed ucrdem Jan 2017 #214

+10000000000 Hekate Jan 2017 #218

Excellent response, ucr.. thank you! Cha Jan 2017 #224

In all fairness - the pony wasn't included. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2017 #248

And it wasn't called Berniecare. ucrdem Jan 2017 #258

He's right. Calling Obama and the ACA a "POS," did not help. Hopefully, GOPers will be Hoyt Jan 2017 #215

The headline misrepresents the Obama quote. Eric J in MN Jan 2017 #216

This headline vs the actual context are not in agreement with one another at all. phleshdef Jan 2017 #220

My health insurance got worse after ACA was passsd, not better Larkspur Jan 2017 #230

I remember when Hillary said something like, 'Medicare for all, can not happen' it hurt her campaign Sunlei Jan 2017 #232

So we are not allowed to criticize? Lunabell Jan 2017 #233

There weren't the votes for single payer.. you can criticize but Cha Jan 2017 #238

Well said Cha, thanks still_one Jan 2017 #320

Thank you stillone for appreciating what we had. Cha Jan 2017 #322

K&R betsuni Jan 2017 #242

Really, Lets talk about what Joe Lieberman did to single payer turbinetree Jan 2017 #246

I thought his plan should be tweaked to make it single payer Generic Other Jan 2017 #255

He is correct, as usual mcar Jan 2017 #261

I'm no longer conservative enough to be a Democrat. MindPilot Jan 2017 #269

if Dems think bashing progressives is a winning strategy, they are in for another beating in 2018 yurbud Jan 2017 #271

Maybe he should have fought harder truebluegreen Jan 2017 #276

Keep trolling the Bernie people, how could that do anything but help the mess we are in? n/t HopeAgain Jan 2017 #277

Welcome to DU! OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #283

President Obama is speaking the truth.. and you call that trolling. the Cha Jan 2017 #308

Denial... HopeAgain Jan 2017 #332

Hillary won the Primary by almost 4 Million Votes.. She won the Cha Jan 2017 #333

I totally disagree lunatica Jan 2017 #278

We all want that, as far as I've seen. Seems like a misguided smear on his part, disappointed in him JudyM Jan 2017 #324

A major reason for the rate increases was Marco Rubio's passage of "a poison pill." Akamai Jan 2017 #287

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2017 #302

How fucking ridiculous. I am surprised he resorted to this level of idiocy. m-lekktor Jan 2017 #334

I don't know what Sanders supporters have to do with the unpopularity from the left wing side JonLP24 Jan 2017 #341