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Turn CO Blue

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44. Trump/Pence were on the same ticket, had SAME staff, had SAME meetings, SAME benefits from Russia
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jan 2017

If Republicans decide to use the information from the intelligence reports, and eventually hold hearings or even to impeach, they should not be able to invalidate Trump without invalidating Pence too.

And I surmise that would be their scheme, because the third in line of succession happens to be their little theocratic/budget-gutting wetdream, House Speaker Paul Ryan.

So while these statements by Graham and McCain all appear very statesmanlike and patriotic, putting Ryan in the White House could be their long-game here in the Game of Thrones.

Of course, I feel that the whole premise of invalidating Trump but still getting to keep Republican control of the line of succession is nuts. If Trump or both Trump/Pence are illegitimate because of TAMPERING, that means the results of the election itself are invalid including which party won - not merely which candidates won.

And if that were true, then if we had laws and election rules that made any sense (in the way we all understand fair play and team sports and competitions) then the other candidate (Clinton) would win BY DEFAULT OR DISQUALIFICATION.

But, alas, we don't have election laws that make sense in these circumstances.

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"whether one of the presidential campaigns coordinated with the Kremlin"--just out it: "Trump" wordpix Jan 2017 #1
drip, drip, drip.. denbot Jan 2017 #2
Republicans will not be saving his ass. yallerdawg Jan 2017 #3
I think they will fry his ass sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #4
The Pence of Darkness (R) is also grossly ILLEGITIMATE Achilleaze Jan 2017 #16
I do not disagree sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Amaryllis Jan 2017 #10
Awesome Catamount Jan 2017 #11
Where was that dumbass during the election? mdbl Jan 2017 #12
this was an interview during the primary. mtngirl47 Jan 2017 #25
sure they will. Calista241 Jan 2017 #37
I'd be worried Trump could put a lid on this when he appoints heads of intel agencies n/t MrPurple Jan 2017 #5
Nixon couldn't do it. roamer65 Jan 2017 #7
The Dems had majorities in Congress to keep the Watergate investigation going MrPurple Jan 2017 #8
Nixon lost the battle when members of his own party lost faith in him. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #18
if plotting with Putin doesn't cost him what faith they had.. sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #24
But that was a far different Repub Party n/t moonscape Jan 2017 #33
Yes, but as awful as they are.... paleotn Jan 2017 #35
Just wait and watch. roamer65 Jan 2017 #26
As Schumer said last week, if you mess with the intelligence agencies, they will mess adigal Jan 2017 #45
That is the WORST thing you can think of to be worried about? souledout2JC Jan 2017 #40
Uh...Are you actually suggesting THIS DOESN'T MATTER??? ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #43
As Uncle Joe from Scranton would say: PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #6
If true, all I can say is FANTASTIC shraby Jan 2017 #9
Roger Stone? Kingofalldems Jan 2017 #13
Jesus...this gives me hope! There's like 12 days to stop this madman! PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #14
Shit will hit Republican fan in late January-early February Achilleaze Jan 2017 #15
I suspect a knee-buckling curve ball: the leak of Trumpy's tax returns. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #20
You just know someone has them. Ligyron Jan 2017 #34
In some respects, I hope Trump stays in long term so as to damage the GOP brand as much Ligyron Jan 2017 #17
Pence was part of the campaign. If there is proof the campaign was in cahoots with the Russians, Vinca Jan 2017 #19
The intelligence community will want to be in front of all this, Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #21
Making The CIA your personal enemy is a road to... roamer65 Jan 2017 #27
...is the road to Dallas... GliderGuider Jan 2017 #42
Almost without question there will be evidence. ffr Jan 2017 #22
+1 CentralMass Jan 2017 #28
exactly paleotn Jan 2017 #36
'Somebody' has the goods on Trump C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #29
Russia. notdarkyet Jan 2017 #39
To quote Prosecutor Archibald Cox Best_man23 Jan 2017 #30
still active investigations" .99center Jan 2017 #31
Well he is your parties leader asshole, maybe ask for his tax returns? Rex Jan 2017 #32
tRUMP45* SayItLoud Jan 2017 #38
FIRST THINGS FIRST!! souledout2JC Jan 2017 #41
Trump/Pence were on the same ticket, had SAME staff, had SAME meetings, SAME benefits from Russia Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #44
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