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26. Father in Apparent Murder-Suicide was ‘Congressman’ in ‘Republic’ (February 2012)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:41 PM
Jul 2012

Posted in Antigovernment by Ryan Lenz on February 10, 2012

Last week, police made a startling announcement in their investigation of a fire that killed a father and son in their rural West Virginia mobile home in January. They revealed that David Hutzler, 56, and his 9-year-old son James, known as “Mack,” were each shot in the head before the trailer burned. The scene bore all the signs of a murder-suicide.

Investigators found accelerants used to start the fire scattered around the property in Glengary, W.Va. An autopsy later determined that one bullet had grazed the young boy’s chin before a second bullet took his life –– a detail that left terrifying questions about the young boy’s final moments.

“Due to the findings in the investigation it is believed that David Hutzler fatally shot his son James ‘Mack’ Hutzler and set fire to his residence before taking his own life,” police told local newspapers as they wrapped up their investigation.

A Hatewatch investigation has now confirmed that Hutzler was once a “congressman” in the Republic for the united States of America (RuSA), one of the largest and most organized antigovernment “sovereign citizens” groups active in the United States today. Led by “president” James Timothy Turner of Ozark, Ala., and with representatives in nearly every state, the group says the federal government is illegitimate and it is “reinhabiting” the true government ...

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/10/father-in-apparent-murder-suicide-was-congressman-in-antigovernment-republic/#more-8679

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Corn gets fermented sometimes. Scuba Jul 2012 #1
I just put water through my nose, thanks to you!!! nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #5
LOL Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #19
Annnnnd Scuba wins the thread. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #50
me too... spilled my coffee DontTreadOnMe Jul 2012 #51
Duzy! FSogol Jul 2012 #53
LOOK OUT! Republicans will be "mainstreaming" it next year! annabanana Jul 2012 #2
"There is NOTHING too nutz for the new repubs!" FiveGoodMen Jul 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #3
Oh please, make it stop! Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #4
Iowa. Iowa has some crazy people including Rep Steve King, but most aren't that crazy. libinnyandia Jul 2012 #6
Oops. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #14
That's ok. A lot of people mix up the 2, especially back east. During my 20+ years in NYC most libinnyandia Jul 2012 #22
Remember that Seinfeld episode where he made a guy Incitatus Jul 2012 #34
their Speaker of the House goes by “Rowdy” Enrique Jul 2012 #7
IOWA Oldtimeralso Jul 2012 #8
Idiots Out Wandering Around Thor_MN Jul 2012 #41
sorry but it is... Oldtimeralso Jul 2012 #46
Tomato... Thor_MN Jul 2012 #48
Eastern Iowa state Senate candidate drops bid;says she has been appointed ‘Republic’ Senator instead struggle4progress Jul 2012 #9
"...months of research." Raster Jul 2012 #11
She actually means four hours over the night of June 30/July 1. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #57
Bagger, truther or militia......or just plain crazy. Historic NY Jul 2012 #29
It's the "sovereign citizen" crowd -- fellow-travelers with the militia folk struggle4progress Jul 2012 #33
Is insanity a requirement of the GOP? BattyDem Jul 2012 #10
GOP has been painting itself into the Fruits-n-Nuts section for years struggle4progress Jul 2012 #15
AND they're effectively running the show! FiveGoodMen Jul 2012 #17
Get enough people to join you and the crackpots become powerful. bloomington-lib Jul 2012 #13
Depends on how large an uprising we're talking. Bunch of beer-swilling couch potatoes? Pretty safe. DRoseDARs Jul 2012 #20
that's what happened to Nazi party in 1930's wordpix Jul 2012 #30
Oh that is ADORABLE, they even have their own wittle pwesident touwing the countwee... DRoseDARs Jul 2012 #16
indeed! adorable treason! :) NuttyFluffers Jul 2012 #39
I bet she has a bunker in her backyard Blue Gardener Jul 2012 #18
Crow jerky! Or,... longship Jul 2012 #23
Not in my kingdom, lady! I am in charge here! n/t Bossy Monkey Jul 2012 #21
‘Sovereign Citizen’ Killed in Altercation with Police in Arizona (June 2011) struggle4progress Jul 2012 #24
... As part of a shadow government created by the "Republic for the united States of America," struggle4progress Jul 2012 #25
This is straight out the most enthralling of the youtube CT mania. Been going on for years. See, freshwest Jul 2012 #35
The "sovereign citizen" crazies predate the internet struggle4progress Jul 2012 #36
Yes, but that's where most of them having been spreading it. freshwest Jul 2012 #38
Father in Apparent Murder-Suicide was ‘Congressman’ in ‘Republic’ (February 2012) struggle4progress Jul 2012 #26
If they don't recognize the legitimate government then I assume they don't vote. drm604 Jul 2012 #27
Wow!! Obama's being President really has sent the GOP over the edge. nanabugg Jul 2012 #28
Never cared for Iowa that much. I'd order the caucuses & primaries based on percent turnout of 24601 Jul 2012 #31
cu proud patriot Jul 2012 #32
Dear Randi, if you say so, then set an example by: alp227 Jul 2012 #37
- not eating food or drinking water regulated to health standards NuttyFluffers Jul 2012 #40
The next Michelle Bachmann. randome Jul 2012 #42
Oh, is that how it works? sofa king Jul 2012 #43
Let me guess, she was losing. nt auburngrad82 Jul 2012 #44
She would have lost had she stayed in Blue Gardener Jul 2012 #47
She's homeschooling her child (or children). surrealAmerican Jul 2012 #45
This bothered me, too! I wonder if ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 #49
They are not taking AP Government, I suspect. FSogol Jul 2012 #54
link to her letter d_r Jul 2012 #52
Sooooooooo, she appears to be saying that African-Americans are *not* citizens of the United States. ieoeja Jul 2012 #55
"I want to especially thank my fellow Ron Paul for President Supporters" KamaAina Jul 2012 #56
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