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32. I have no idea what 'elected' has to do with being a citizen of the United States, and defending the

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:18 PM

Jan 2017

Constitution. How the hell do you know how well they are doing for you? I love Obama but there's no way I would have trusted him, given the political messiness and embarrassing reality of it, to have exposed these realities to the public had he gotten wind of them, and that's assuming he didn't know about them already. And I put trust in him above probably most people in congress.

Understand that your trust in our elected officials is not everybody else's. I don't have an unreasonable requirement for well meaning Americans to blindly trust other offices within our government to be better than the parts of it that literally just showed themselves to be corrupt. You don't see anything a little smirking about saying..."if your government is corrupt you should go to your government"?

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Army Leaker Chelsea Manning on Obama's 'Short List' for Commutation [View all] DonViejo Jan 2017 OP

I really hope Pres Obama TDale313 Jan 2017 #1

I'm curious as to why people are so interested in her case citood Jan 2017 #3

I can't really speak for others, TDale313 Jan 2017 #4

Add to which, she had the willingness to acknowledge guilt... brooklynite Jan 2017 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jan 2017 #20

Possibly b/c she exposed war crimes, committed in all our names. And nothing was done. Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #37

*waggles finger* No, Manning was punished for leaking far more than just that and you know that is cstanleytech Jan 2017 #39

Yes Coolest Ranger Jan 2017 #2

She and Snowden are heroes HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #5

Snowden is an America hating traitor that fled to adversaries. Renew Deal Jan 2017 #9

... LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #11

What a crock of shit. Our own government broke laws. You don't care about that. You care about JCanete Jan 2017 #13

So revealing details over intelligence gathering on other countries was cstanleytech Jan 2017 #40

wasn't exactly the point of the release. I am going to assume that anybody who doesn't JCanete Jan 2017 #43

If the point was to expose crimes being covered up then the information should have been limited to cstanleytech Jan 2017 #45

Yeah, I know, that's the single part of the story you care about. nt JCanete Jan 2017 #46

Yes, I care about accuracy, horrible isnt it? cstanleytech Jan 2017 #47

what you don't give a shit about is the more important parts of both of their stories...you know, JCanete Jan 2017 #48

Actually I care about the fact the government covered things up like the helicopter attack cstanleytech Jan 2017 #49

I hope not OKNancy Jan 2017 #6

Transfer to a mental health facility? Bradical79 Jan 2017 #10

Speaking of the surgery what happens if Manning is released now? cstanleytech Jan 2017 #41

Nope leftynyc Jan 2017 #7

we have such a sick punitive society, don't you think? No, I guess not. nt JCanete Jan 2017 #14

I think people who are volunteer to leftynyc Jan 2017 #15

And those people who killed non-violent targets in the name of our government? I have a feeling JCanete Jan 2017 #17

Don't even THINK about making leftynyc Jan 2017 #19

when you address one outside of the context of the other, it is hard not to infer your sympathies, JCanete Jan 2017 #21

Policies must be put in leftynyc Jan 2017 #25

This is the thing though, and it should be kind of obvious. Those policies don't get made because JCanete Jan 2017 #26

No - not obvious at all leftynyc Jan 2017 #28

You can make that case for manning, but again you put all the burden on Manning, and you have JCanete Jan 2017 #30

Snowden is another thief that leftynyc Jan 2017 #31

I have no idea what 'elected' has to do with being a citizen of the United States, and defending the JCanete Jan 2017 #32

lulz Rex Jan 2017 #27

By exposing war crimes committed in all our names? Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #38

Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt one of the other options to report it to cstanleytech Jan 2017 #42

She should have gone leftynyc Jan 2017 #50

Three key points to keep in mind . . FairWinds Jan 2017 #8

Agreed along with LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #12

Yes. okasha Jan 2017 #24

informative post, thanks. nt JCanete Jan 2017 #16

"Obama should also pardon (not commute) Snowden, Kiriakou, Sterling, and Bergdahl." Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #23

Hey Blue, I'm glad you were alerted upon . . FairWinds Jan 2017 #34

I doubt Obama will pardon Bergdahl unless the case is over with and even then its a slim chance. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #44

What is your source? grantcart Jan 2017 #52

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #22

Hell no! Let her rot away in prison. Rex Jan 2017 #29

Yes, GOPPER's do say that . . FairWinds Jan 2017 #33

No just noting some in here are saying it too. Rex Jan 2017 #51

I hope it happens for her... cynatnite Jan 2017 #35

Is Chelsea's legal name Chelsea? bigworld Jan 2017 #36

she needs to be released Skittles Jan 2017 #53