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SaschaHM

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90. So does anyone actually know the content of the Amendment?

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 08:19 PM

Jan 2017

Or is it just a bad thing to vote down because Bernie wrote it? How did it stack up to the other amendments offered on the scenario? How did Booker vote on the others?

And if we're talking about BigPharma, we're talking about NJ and Booker's constituents. Yes, he's going to be concerned given how a giant industry that employs a portion of his state is affected by a bill. That's the purpose of electing a Senator.

I'm not going to get outraged or start throwing around the term "shill" until we actually have some details on his objections to this bill and his view on the others. Feels like this is shaping up to be the CO single payer thing all over again when Dems who came out against it for various reasons were tarred and feathers by folks that just say "single payer" and didn't even pay attention to the context of the bill.

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Progressives Outraged Over Booker, Democrats Vote on Prescription Drugs From Canada - See more at: [View all] kenfrequed Jan 2017 OP

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Total agreement! kenfrequed Jan 2017 #5

We need some new Dems FreakinDJ Jan 2017 #47

Just sent Booker a few tweets calling him out for his bullshit. DK504 Jan 2017 #123

I'll send him one, too, but I'm not a constituent wordpix Jan 2017 #151

He was bragging on Facebook... Blanks Jan 2017 #177

I have never liked him no matter.. coco22 Jan 2017 #181

Will you now vote for Mike Lee since he voted for it? Renew Deal Jan 2017 #12

Why would I? kenfrequed Jan 2017 #16

It seems that Corey goes from saint to demon depending on how he aligns with Bernie ehrnst Jan 2017 #21

I read a statement from Bob Casey on this (the only one I could find this a.m.) LisaM Jan 2017 #24

Since a couple of those names are regular DINO voters - I would say No FreakinDJ Jan 2017 #51

You don't need to. LisaM Jan 2017 #55

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #62

+1 grantcart Jan 2017 #78

Glad you named them FreakinDJ Jan 2017 #81

++++++++++ JHan Jan 2017 #95

let us know your research b/c I'm outraged at these votes wordpix Jan 2017 #152

Drug safety is always something they use to try to stop cheap drugs. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #57

And to ensure that they are not coming from some guy working out of a garage in Canada ehrnst Jan 2017 #60

What? kenfrequed Jan 2017 #82

Have you read the bill? Renew Deal Jan 2017 #88

I have parents kenfrequed Jan 2017 #105

So the answer is no Renew Deal Jan 2017 #162

So the answer is you should change your name. kenfrequed Jan 2017 #186

What are my positions? Renew Deal Jan 2017 #187

What a load. kenfrequed Jan 2017 #195

Did I say anything about the bill? Really, has anyone here? ehrnst Jan 2017 #161

Thanks Renew Deal Jan 2017 #164

I'm pointing out the hyperbole going on here. I don't see anyone citing ehrnst Jan 2017 #156

is that the same 400 lb. guy hacking from his bedroom? wordpix Jan 2017 #153

Non-sequitur? ehrnst Jan 2017 #157

As if Canada is some sort of primitive hellhole QC Jan 2017 #129

Look for the Canadian International Pharmacy Assiciation, CIPA, seal. Utilize PharmacyChecker.com, still_one Jan 2017 #133

Thank you. There is some thought and some actual concern about what is in the bill and amendment. ehrnst Jan 2017 #58

You are correct. murielm99 Jan 2017 #63

Thank you. Apparently the term progressive has been coopted to mean ehrnst Jan 2017 #67

The term progressive means not a corporate dem. IMO ciaobaby Jan 2017 #85

You do not get to define things murielm99 Jan 2017 #134

and yet I just did define things. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #135

Bye. murielm99 Jan 2017 #136

kiss kiss ciaobaby Jan 2017 #137

and with bernie it means not a dem at all . stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #176

this!!!! Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #145

So are you saying that any criticism of Booker is unwarranted rpannier Jan 2017 #109

Straw man much? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #166

not good Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #2

Corey Booker via Twitter ehrnst Jan 2017 #3

From Canada? kenfrequed Jan 2017 #6

Such as requiring that it came from an actual Canadian pharmacy, and not some guy ehrnst Jan 2017 #46

FDA is actually very strict and a common GOP complaint IronLionZion Jan 2017 #54

A few points you should consider rpannier Jan 2017 #115

Many drugs ordered from Canadian pharmacies brer cat Jan 2017 #93

I checked with various Canadian Governmental agencies like Health Canada rpannier Jan 2017 #107

It's odd how some drugs are labeled. brer cat Jan 2017 #125

Something I learned from reading articles on this topic rpannier Jan 2017 #127

Not really. brer cat Jan 2017 #132

Can you provide links and sources to this being a larger problem rpannier Jan 2017 #143

The government agencies in Canada and US as well as other countries brer cat Jan 2017 #173

thanks and that blows Booker/Casey/Murray's arguments out of the water wordpix Jan 2017 #160

No they're not.... George II Jan 2017 #183

So... kenfrequed Jan 2017 #184

Controls are different, inspection methods are different, overall laws are different. George II Jan 2017 #188

I'm standing on principle kenfrequed Jan 2017 #194

Translation: You haven't paid your way into the way things work here... (yet) n/t EarthFirst Jan 2017 #7

Or there was no way to ensure that some guy in a garage in Canada making knock offs isn't ehrnst Jan 2017 #49

you vote for the importation and then add safety amendment or direct FDA to come up with regs wordpix Jan 2017 #163

If it was a good amendment that would have been included. As written it was vague and had... George II Jan 2017 #196

vote for importation and then add a safety amendment or tell FDA to put it in regs wordpix Jan 2017 #171

Pretty simple, really! n/t EarthFirst Jan 2017 #172

"protections..." The sorry-assed reason used for YEARS by Big Pharma. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #8

So anyone concerned about protections is in "big pharma's" pocket? ehrnst Jan 2017 #53

After years of that "protections" crap, I think "anyone" is north of the border... Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #69

Because it's a Sanders amendment. LisaM Jan 2017 #83

Actually... kenfrequed Jan 2017 #185

Get over the Bernie hate. Has nothing to do with him. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #72

Gah, you're ovsessed with bernie, while also defending corporocrats. Yuck dionysus Jan 2017 #148

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #25

That is the same argument that republicans PatSeg Jan 2017 #27

our drugs are now made all over the world, try again booker juxtaposed Jan 2017 #31

And there are regs to ensure that they are what they say on the label - for SAFETY ehrnst Jan 2017 #65

and they are juxtaposed Jan 2017 #74

Oh you betcha Corey elmac Jan 2017 #40

So he felt strongly enough to testify against Sessions hollowdweller Jan 2017 #68

Weak! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #42

Because he thinks differently from Bernie? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #71

Hiding behind a faux safety standards net humbled_opinion Jan 2017 #80

Corey, that's not how you do legislation. First, you pass it, Alice11111 Jan 2017 #92

I was about to say that this was ridiculous, given that Canada gets its drugs FROM TrollBuster9090 Jan 2017 #118

no solidarity for people charging $40K per round of conventional chemo wordpix Jan 2017 #155

if he unequivocally supports imports he should have voted for them - my CT senators did wordpix Jan 2017 #154

Anytime you see that safety standards BS it's because they are owned by big Pharam harun Jan 2017 #182

Congress Gets the Best Pays for Nothing Tiberius Adams Jan 2017 #4

even ted Cruz and Rand Paul DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #9

Maybe Trump will live up to his promise to negotiate drug prices through Medicare. Hoyt Jan 2017 #10

Are you saying that when someone says "safety concerns" that they mean safety concerns? ehrnst Jan 2017 #70

Is it at all possible for you... chwaliszewski Jan 2017 #142

The OP is about Bernie's amendment. If you don't believe me - look up. ehrnst Jan 2017 #147

Mike Lee voted for it Renew Deal Jan 2017 #11

And we wonder why Democrats can't seem to connect with people. alarimer Jan 2017 #13

We need to put the pressure on. We really need to do this. Yo_Mama Jan 2017 #103

US taxpayers should realize they are paying fantasy prices for drugs and bankrupting ACA, Medicare wordpix Jan 2017 #158

They are Democrats and therefore theaocp Jan 2017 #14

Only Democrats by name elmac Jan 2017 #45

Booker wants to be President. I guess he's showing us who he supports early on. jalan48 Jan 2017 #15

He's always been like that BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #86

More bullets in the foot agincourt Jan 2017 #17

A couple points to consider; Trust Buster Jan 2017 #18

Thank you for posting that. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #76

You're welcome Trust Buster Jan 2017 #110

"slaves of the oligarchy"---you got it and Booker et. al. appear to be slavemasters wordpix Jan 2017 #159

How can I see who voted and how? Equinox Moon Jan 2017 #19

Here is the list of Democrats anyhow. Almost All of the Republicans voted No kenfrequed Jan 2017 #20

Thank you so much for this! Equinox Moon Jan 2017 #23

We need to weed out the corporate shills in the party elmac Jan 2017 #48

Big Pharma $$$$$ Arazi Jan 2017 #50

Getting corporate money out of politics would help a lot. alarimer Jan 2017 #174

They voted just like a republican. Equinox Moon Jan 2017 #175

Doesn't it ring alarm bells for you that Cruz, Lee, and Paul supported it? Renew Deal Jan 2017 #91

2 plus 2 4 DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #99

Their motives are opaque kenfrequed Jan 2017 #113

Thank you! I just called my Senator Heinrich, who voted no Alice11111 Jan 2017 #96

arm yourselves with drug info and meetup with these would-be oligarchs if they represent you wordpix Jan 2017 #165

Senate roll call Eric J in MN Jan 2017 #39

roll call is a right wing site that is shit stirring OKNancy Jan 2017 #22

Nancy, it is how they voted kenfrequed Jan 2017 #26

it was never going to pass and was grandstanding by Sanders OKNancy Jan 2017 #28

Oh gods what-ever kenfrequed Jan 2017 #30

Finance companies make up about half of the GDP in NJ and NY, employing thousands of good people.... bettyellen Jan 2017 #119

Can you explain to me what this means to you? I don't get what you're saying. That if you support JCanete Jan 2017 #189

I mean that you really have to look deeper and consider their votes and who they represent as well.. bettyellen Jan 2017 #191

I agree that we should be measured. By the way though, I don't accept a vote that helps people in JCanete Jan 2017 #192

Whats going on here is elmac Jan 2017 #52

Let's go with that Uponthegears Jan 2017 #59

Don't you liberals just understand your job is to just shut up and vote for the Democrats no matter Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #79

Thank you. nt riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #121

So article aside. why is it ok that Booker voted no? NobodyHere Jan 2017 #35

Of course, anyone who differs from Bernie is CORRUPT! That's the new definition, right? ehrnst Jan 2017 #29

Sarcasm... without content kenfrequed Jan 2017 #32

That seems to be the last thing going on here - no one seems to care what was in the amendment ehrnst Jan 2017 #56

Absurd kenfrequed Jan 2017 #75

why don't you tell us then? Why don't you explain why only 13 dems, some of which take a lot of JCanete Jan 2017 #190

Perhaps the answer lies in the "symbolic" nature of the amendment. ehrnst Jan 2017 #193

QFT ananda Jan 2017 #33

Really? Well Booker and the other Democrats can always fall back on the Bernie "excuse"..... George II Jan 2017 #61

... OilemFirchen Jan 2017 #84

If your strange dislike of Bernie could be put on hold for a moment, pennylane100 Jan 2017 #100

+1000 Eom riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #120

way to win your argument---not! We're talking about the content of his bill and not your wordpix Jan 2017 #167

Just taking care of business before Trump socks it to big pharma Chakaconcarne Jan 2017 #34

Uh... What?! kenfrequed Jan 2017 #37

Does anyone have the actual language of the Bill and the amendment? ehrnst Jan 2017 #36

This was a procedural amendment to start writing a bill Eric J in MN Jan 2017 #41

A Dr's prescription would be the minimum for getting an Rx anywhere ehrnst Jan 2017 #44

We would be free to choose where we got our drugs from HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #104

Here is the roll call link....... riversedge Jan 2017 #38

Thank you! I called mine..Notice: NO 4Heinrich and PMurray Alice11111 Jan 2017 #108

Booker and some of the Democratic senators who voted against the amendment were among the top..... 4bucksagallon Jan 2017 #43

Booker has been too cozy with big money donors. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #64

Sounds like a winning strategy! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2017 #66

This would have helped so many people. azmom Jan 2017 #73

so another prime example why we didnt need the same Ol party favorites to INdemo Jan 2017 #77

I was pleased that Booker took a stand, maybe the failing rladdi Jan 2017 #87

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #89

So does anyone actually know the content of the Amendment? SaschaHM Jan 2017 #90

from the Sanders Bill ciaobaby Jan 2017 #98

"safe and affordable" means nothing without a guideline deeming the standards that something has to SaschaHM Jan 2017 #106

if you have handy ---- ciaobaby Jan 2017 #117

are these Pharma donations to D traitors for one year or several? wordpix Jan 2017 #169

OMG, that's a RW trope. Canada gets its drugs from the same US suppliers riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #122

Oh lord. The good 'ole. You don't agree with me so that's a RW trope. SaschaHM Jan 2017 #126

Can you explain why the Republicans unanimously voted against the Wyden Amendment... JustinL Jan 2017 #131

all of that usually comes with regulations from an agency, FDA or HHS in this case wordpix Jan 2017 #168

This retired registered nurse buys drugs from Canada ALL the time!! Thekaspervote Jan 2017 #94

Yes, we should all be standing up to most corporations. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #97

It's money. And this must pass. We should keep the pressure on. Yo_Mama Jan 2017 #101

What are we always told on here, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good? Skeeter Barnes Jan 2017 #102

Oh... That? kenfrequed Jan 2017 #114

The constituents of those 13 members need to make their concerns known, and make it clear Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #111

Like US standards are so great shadowmayor Jan 2017 #112

Are these the same progressives who hate NAFTA? Our free trade agreement with Canada? ucrdem Jan 2017 #116

Most progressives would be in favor of free trade with Canada killbotfactory Jan 2017 #138

Because Canadians Are Not So Brown? TomCADem Jan 2017 #140

Because Canada has labor and environmental standards. killbotfactory Jan 2017 #149

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #124

Here is the U.S. Senate rollcall .......... riversedge Jan 2017 #128

Keep these votes in context DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #130

Thought Dems Were Opposed to Cheap Imports? TomCADem Jan 2017 #139

Can someone explain the purpose of proposing the admendment? BainsBane Jan 2017 #141

Eunuchs Mister Midnight Jan 2017 #144

What is his reasoning? treestar Jan 2017 #146

Did you read the amendment and Booker's comments about why he voted against it? George II Jan 2017 #150

Here is the text of the amendment itself: ehrnst Jan 2017 #170

Progressives Outraged when are they not Outraged ! stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #178

rec bahrbearian Jan 2017 #179

This right here NCDem777 Jan 2017 #180