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15. On that 3.8% surtax to help pay for health care and the high dividend rates - that's on top earners
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jul 2012

The 3.8% surtax to help pay for Obama care is just on those earning $200,000 (individuals) and $250,000 married filing jointly. Per the book, "Landmark, The Inside Story of America's New Health Care Law..." by the staff of the Washington Post, 2010

So don't panic that everyone is going to get hit with a 3.8% income tax surcharge.

As for Obama proposing in his 2013 budget that dividends being taxed at the same rate as ordinary income -- that's only for the upper brackets (probably again the $200,000 / $250,000 income and above).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-12/senate-democrats-still-filling-blanks-in-obama-tax-plan.html

Obama’s budget this year calls for taxing dividends as ordinary income for high earners at rates of up to 39.6 percent, compared with 15 percent now. His previous budgets had called for the top tax rate on dividends to be 20 percent, matching the proposed capital gains rates.


Obama has always said he will keep the Bush tax cuts in place for those earning less than $200,000 / $250,000, which is:

Long-term capital gains and "qualified dividends" -
0% rate for those in the 15% tax bracket and below
15% rate for those above the 15% tax bracket (but below the $200,000 / $250,000)

Short term capital gains and unqualified dividends: taxed as ordinary income (just like now)

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.... DJ13 Jul 2012 #1
IMO Bloomberg's headline is false. How is the Senate bill a "split" ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #16
I think the "split" is on taxation of the top earners progree Jul 2012 #19
But the President clearly said, Leave taxation on the top 2 percent (and implicitly on ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #22
I'm just going by what the article said and what I've seen and heard in the news over and over progree Jul 2012 #23
Again, here's why a public option was NEVER going to happen! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #2
Thinking as someone who's nearing retirement, I have to disagree with our President. DCKit Jul 2012 #3
Me too, I disagree. Maybe dividends for the big players, like Romney, should be taxed at 40% xtraxritical Jul 2012 #5
The current rate... ensemble Jul 2012 #12
70 K$ taxable income = 89 K$ adjusted gross income progree Jul 2012 #20
You know I used the word dividends when I really meant capital gains, sorry for the confusion. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #21
Both the qualified dividend rate and the LT capital gains rate remain where they are for bottom 98% progree Jul 2012 #24
As Dick Durbin said pscot Jul 2012 #4
...and "Dick The Dick", should know. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #10
Simplify things. All income regardless of source taxed at the rate for that income level. on point Jul 2012 #6
I believe.... ensemble Jul 2012 #11
Where the strange number (23.8%) comes from progree Jul 2012 #7
How many wealthy Senators.... Capt.Rocky300 Jul 2012 #8
exactly heaven05 Jul 2012 #18
Dividends are earned income and should be taxed as such.... WCGreen Jul 2012 #9
Seems more like unearned income to me. eallen Jul 2012 #17
One thing I've noticed... ensemble Jul 2012 #13
Exactly brutus smith Jul 2012 #27
The DINOs strike again DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #14
On that 3.8% surtax to help pay for health care and the high dividend rates - that's on top earners progree Jul 2012 #15
Taxes must go up rks306 Jul 2012 #25
I see the RW talking point about Obama controlling the Senate is still valid ... zbdent Jul 2012 #26
Tax the hell out of it... I'll never have to worry about dividends... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #28
Politicians tend to over-complicate dividends. Just exempt the 1st $50,000 and tax he rest as 24601 Jul 2012 #29
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