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24. Both the qualified dividend rate and the LT capital gains rate remain where they are for bottom 98%
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jul 2012

under both Obama and Senate Democrat proposals:

The "lower peasants" -- those in the 15% income tax bracket or below -- pay a 0% rate on both dividends and long term capital gains. For singles in 2012 that is up to a $35,350 taxable income, which corresponds to a $45,100 adjusted gross income (AGI) for a single taking the standard deduction and one exemption (him/her self). For singles who itemize deductions and/or have children, the AGI threshold is higher. For married couples filing jointly in 2012 that is up to a $70,700 taxable income, which corresponds to a $90,200 adjusted gross income (AGI) if they take the standard deduction and two exemptions (one for each person in the couple). For marrieds who itemize deductions, and/or have children the AGI threshold is higher.

The "upper peasants" -- those above the 15% income tax bracket but with income below $200,000 individual / $250,000 married -- pay a 15% rate on both dividends and long term capital gains.

Just to clarify for anyone in the bottom 98% (the "peasants" in the above) who might be worrying about a dividend or long term capital gains increase -- there won't be under Obama's proposals or Senate Democrat proposals, or for that matter, Mitt RobMe's.

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.... DJ13 Jul 2012 #1
IMO Bloomberg's headline is false. How is the Senate bill a "split" ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #16
I think the "split" is on taxation of the top earners progree Jul 2012 #19
But the President clearly said, Leave taxation on the top 2 percent (and implicitly on ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #22
I'm just going by what the article said and what I've seen and heard in the news over and over progree Jul 2012 #23
Again, here's why a public option was NEVER going to happen! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #2
Thinking as someone who's nearing retirement, I have to disagree with our President. DCKit Jul 2012 #3
Me too, I disagree. Maybe dividends for the big players, like Romney, should be taxed at 40% xtraxritical Jul 2012 #5
The current rate... ensemble Jul 2012 #12
70 K$ taxable income = 89 K$ adjusted gross income progree Jul 2012 #20
You know I used the word dividends when I really meant capital gains, sorry for the confusion. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #21
Both the qualified dividend rate and the LT capital gains rate remain where they are for bottom 98% progree Jul 2012 #24
As Dick Durbin said pscot Jul 2012 #4
...and "Dick The Dick", should know. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #10
Simplify things. All income regardless of source taxed at the rate for that income level. on point Jul 2012 #6
I believe.... ensemble Jul 2012 #11
Where the strange number (23.8%) comes from progree Jul 2012 #7
How many wealthy Senators.... Capt.Rocky300 Jul 2012 #8
exactly heaven05 Jul 2012 #18
Dividends are earned income and should be taxed as such.... WCGreen Jul 2012 #9
Seems more like unearned income to me. eallen Jul 2012 #17
One thing I've noticed... ensemble Jul 2012 #13
Exactly brutus smith Jul 2012 #27
The DINOs strike again DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #14
On that 3.8% surtax to help pay for health care and the high dividend rates - that's on top earners progree Jul 2012 #15
Taxes must go up rks306 Jul 2012 #25
I see the RW talking point about Obama controlling the Senate is still valid ... zbdent Jul 2012 #26
Tax the hell out of it... I'll never have to worry about dividends... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #28
Politicians tend to over-complicate dividends. Just exempt the 1st $50,000 and tax he rest as 24601 Jul 2012 #29
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