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cloudythescribbler

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22. it is NOT self-evident to me (especially ur throwing Snowden in the list) that they're useful idiots
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 07:05 PM
Jan 2017

I think that Palast's report is VERY convincing, judging the reporting on programs like CrossCheck and not an ad hominem about the man.

As for Assange -- his revelations all other things being equal, exposed stuff in the Democratic Party of interest to the cognoscenti, which in my arrogant opinion (imao) had virtually no effect on the election, far less than eg Comey.

Since Assange and others are being scapegoated for HRC's defeat, there are many fewer defenders here on DU. Plenty of progressives still respect him and the Intercept and Greenwald.

That you throw in Snowden w/the list suggests that you really don't like the leaking of dirt altogether, not just when it ostensibly helps the RW (as I haven't seen the case made about Snowden)

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Really? Zoonart Jan 2017 #1
Of course not!!!! LisaM Jan 2017 #2
What a bullshit artist bravenak Jan 2017 #3
+1 grantcart Jan 2017 #53
What a tosser. Scurrilous Jan 2017 #4
So, he'll have plenty of time to fly to Sweden... brooklynite Jan 2017 #5
What a weasel Dopers_Greed Jan 2017 #6
Well I'll Be iloveObama12 Jan 2017 #7
Extra points for using two awesome characters from The Wire. nycbos Jan 2017 #10
Called it yesterday Jake Stern Jan 2017 #8
It's dump-on-the-left-fest (Assange, Greenwald, Lee Fang etc) time, but I support Assange cloudythescribbler Jan 2017 #9
Neither assange or POS greenwald leftynyc Jan 2017 #13
neither supported Trump even implicitly -- but both opposed Hillary as did many (not me) on the Left cloudythescribbler Jan 2017 #23
The FAR left didn't like Hillary leftynyc Jan 2017 #34
wrongly, in my view, many of my fellow leftists argued the difference wasn't worth voting for cloudythescribbler Jan 2017 #38
I'd hesitate to call them "left" Bradical79 Jan 2017 #54
Assange absolutely did want Trump to win True_Blue Jan 2017 #52
Palast is a sensationalist hack & Assange never intended to face his rape charges or any other uhnope Jan 2017 #15
it is NOT self-evident to me (especially ur throwing Snowden in the list) that they're useful idiots cloudythescribbler Jan 2017 #22
I don't blame them for HRC's defeat uhnope Jan 2017 #32
I've read about the trashing job of Snowden but have no plans to read the book itself cloudythescribbler Jan 2017 #39
a lot of focus is on Russia hack & interference because of Trump's Russian ties uhnope Jan 2017 #40
here you go --- Palast Linx w/discussion of each cloudythescribbler Jan 2017 #42
thank you but uhnope Jan 2017 #49
assange and greenwald dump on themselves by pimping for putin. Cha Jan 2017 #24
Bingo! You know it, I know it, Msanthrope told us loooooooong time ago... bravenak Jan 2017 #26
poor assange & greenwald.. Cha Jan 2017 #28
Are people still stupid enough to believe that GG bravenak Jan 2017 #30
because what they have in common is wanting democrats defeated JI7 Jan 2017 #33
I remember when it was third way/turd way bravenak Jan 2017 #37
Douchewald is a libertarian. Nt dionysus Jan 2017 #35
lol. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #41
Assange and Greenwald are right wingers Renew Deal Jan 2017 #51
Sweden can have the rapist. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #11
Who believed that Assange would keep his word? Gothmog Jan 2017 #12
Someone right on this thread leftynyc Jan 2017 #14
what days are these when we can't trust rapists working for Vladimir Putin? nt geek tragedy Jan 2017 #16
While I feel like we need rogue sources like wikileaks, I don't have to think that the people JCanete Jan 2017 #17
Is the U.S. interested in seeking extradition? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2017 #18
No. Just trying obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2017 #29
The US hasnt expressed any interest in extraditing Assange ever but it refuses to issue any cstanleytech Jan 2017 #44
This comes as a complete surprise. old guy Jan 2017 #19
I doubt what they wanted was a consideration in the decision Skittles Jan 2017 #20
LIARS!! The words "released immediately" were nowhere in the Wikileaks statement. pnwmom Jan 2017 #21
Watch out, may want to edit... dionysus Jan 2017 #36
There's the loophole. JohnnyRingo Jan 2017 #25
LOL! If it looks like a weasel, and smells like a weasel, and acts like a weasel..... Squinch Jan 2017 #27
Snowshit never intended to follow through anyway - he could come up with something. Lil Missy Jan 2017 #31
Who cares? The USA and the world have a REAL problem at the moment. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #43
I doubt Assange is even a mild blip on the list and Snowden isnt much better since cstanleytech Jan 2017 #45
May be wrong here canetoad Jan 2017 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author susanna Jan 2017 #48
I guess he likes his digs in the Ecuadorian embassy. Russian tool. n/t susanna Jan 2017 #47
Since the US has never requested his extradition the whole declaration was for publicity. tammywammy Jan 2017 #50
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