Angela Merkel intervenes over court ban on circumcision of young boys (in Germany)

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Yes, a person who argues about smegma and general infections being a major reason for circumcision is either stupid or filthy. By this logic, if we cauterized kids' fingernails shortly after birth, it would drastically reduce the rate of conjunctivitis infection... or we could just teach our kids how to keep their hands clean.

My point was that there is no telling correlation between HIV and circumcision by country. Some countries with hich circumcision rate have low HIV infection rates, some countries with low circumcision rates have high infection rates... And vice versa. There's no rhyme or reason to it. By logic, we would have to assume that the US, with its high circumcision rate, would have a low HIV infection rate. That's not what happens. Norway, where almost no one gets cut, should be a seething hotbed of HIV infections... Again, not the case.

As for these AIDS experiments... First, there were no controls for other factors besides vaginal intercourse. As I'm sure you're aware, there are many ways to contract the HIV virus. Second, the circumcised group had six weeks "off" from sexual intercourse that the uncircumcised group did not. Third, the circumcised experimental group received extensive education in the proper use of condoms, and was supplied with plenty of rubbers. The uncircumcised control group did not receive this instruction or supply. The study also relies on the random chance factor of the subjects bedding down with an infected person. Of course it would violate all standards of ethics to perform the experiment "properly" so, I don't complain on this, except to note that it's going to have an effect on the results.

Could circumcision have an effect? Sure, as the second study notes, the removal of the foreskin causes the mucus membrane of the glans to become more keratinized and thus less penetrable or prone to injury, lessening the chances of infections. 60% reduction rate though? No.

Next, ask yourself; Exactly how many people is your infant son sleeping with, that scarring his penis to get some percentile protection against infection going to be such a top priority? I would hope the answer is "none," but when parents show this much concern over the esthetics of their kid's erogenous zones, it does make me wonder.

Also remember; as was found in these experiments, condoms can be a major factor in preventing disease transmission. I know that if you think god needs your son's penis to be mangled, then you probably believe Pat Robertson when he tells you otherwise, but your god's a pervert and Pat Robertson is a liar.

1) Teach your kids to wash their junk.
2) Teach your kids safe sex
3) if your kid wants to be carved up for God like a spiral ham, then let him make that decision. Not you.

Simple.