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BlueCaliDem

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7. Oh goodie! Now China gets to set the rules for the Asian market, and Americans can look forward to
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jan 2017

paying the price! Real smart there.

This is why the anger against TPP was totally unfounded - but well propagandized by pro-corporate M$M - from an American worker's p.o.v. The stronger rules in the TPP would've protected foreign workers from being exploited, would've held countries accountable should workers try to join a union (and are currently being murdered for it - with impunity and no recourse), and a whole host of other laws that would have protected our environment and such.

But supporters of President Obama, who trusted him to always stand on the side of workers, knew this. Those who couldn't bring themselves to trust him but rather swooned for the louder Senators from Vermont and Massachusetts, were against the TPP while not bothering to read it. GOP smiled. Billionaire corporate heads smiled. Propagandists propadized against the TPP.

Great goin' there, America. Slave labor across the globe will continue, and corporations will continue to send jobs overseas cuz they'll work for a few dollars a day, fattening their bottom line. And NAFTA is still alive and well and UNchanged, while those who railed against the TPP are not strangely silent...until shit hits the fan, and it will.

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Japan and China have already started regional trade talks Recursion Jan 2017 #1
Trump doesn't grasp geopolitics. joshcryer Jan 2017 #2
So here's one advantage of the short attention spans in Dumbfuckistan Recursion Jan 2017 #3
After thinking about it for awhile... joshcryer Jan 2017 #18
It's too labor friendly though Recursion Jan 2017 #19
Please give a link explaining how ISDS would "cover US's Ass" nikto Jan 2017 #23
How dare OTHER countries talk trade, without the US calling the shots? nikto Jan 2017 #25
They're free to, but we'd much rather have a hand in the agreement to protect our interests Recursion Jan 2017 #28
That's what Mickey Kantor would say nikto Jan 2017 #34
What is it about unions and minimum wages that bothers you? Recursion Jan 2017 #37
I would ask you the same question nikto Jan 2017 #47
I think I am starting to revise my thoughts on the TPP. nycbos Jan 2017 #4
Don't bother, there is no new evidence nikto Jan 2017 #26
China will now right the rules to trade in the pacific. nycbos Jan 2017 #30
Yeah, if China insists on LOW wages, poor environmental conditions, and NO regulations, that's bad nikto Jan 2017 #32
Err.. environmental and labor groups were part of the negotiation team Recursion Jan 2017 #38
I challenge you to back that up with a solid evidential link nikto Jan 2017 #46
Didn't think so. nikto Jan 2017 #48
Incapable of a factual response? nikto Jan 2017 #49
You offered no evidence for your ridiculous claim Recursion Jan 2017 #50
Thank you for some apparent substance, but ofcourse bias is unavoidable nikto Jan 2017 #51
1st impression is that ... nikto Jan 2017 #52
AFL-CIO's final weigh-In (after full-text was released and analyzed) nikto Jan 2017 #53
... SidDithers Jan 2017 #54
The US never ratified the agreement oberliner Jan 2017 #5
Exactly watoos Jan 2017 #10
What time does his his day start? Maybe he'll take today off, too. tom_kelly Jan 2017 #6
Oh goodie! Now China gets to set the rules for the Asian market, and Americans can look forward to BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #7
China will take the USAs billions in trade but the other countries still have their TPP trade agreem Sunlei Jan 2017 #13
Yup. We've been screwed by ideologues and isolationists, and China is the dog that walks BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #40
China was not going to be in TPP, so they could undercut TPP partner nations. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #15
Also, one BIG purpose of TPP was to ... nikto Jan 2017 #27
Trade from this market was going to happen regardless of TPP. joshcryer Jan 2017 #17
If TPP was a good plan for the public it would have been made public harun Jan 2017 #35
ALL trade deals are negotiated in secret for a reason! We were only ONE country in 12 BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #39
Compassionate Conservatives harun Jan 2017 #42
What pushed Trumputin over the top was the ignorance of the American people. Period. BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #43
Remember the good old days when I continually asked Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #8
The russian hackings & blackmail worked really well. Sunlei Jan 2017 #14
China isn't in a trade agreement with us, and will still export cheap stuff... brooklynite Jan 2017 #9
It's not about trade for me watoos Jan 2017 #11
This is just "reality show" theatrics. There never was a ratified TPP. PSPS Jan 2017 #12
yeah, i was gonna mention that. mopinko Jan 2017 #16
Yep. Rex Jan 2017 #20
Wrong. nikto Jan 2017 #24
Withdrawal from Trans-Pacific Partnership shifts U.S. role in world economy milestogo Jan 2017 #21
Good! nikto Jan 2017 #22
Why don't you want Vietnamese workers to have a minimum wage or independent labor unions? Recursion Jan 2017 #29
Vietnamese workers would have been kept poor, and their nation's environment, ruined nikto Jan 2017 #33
And you want to keep that happening. Recursion Jan 2017 #36
Keep what happening? That is a truncated, blurry answer. nikto Jan 2017 #45
It gets better: Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #31
This is exactly what President Obama warned us about, but ideologues on both sides played their BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #41
Obama wasn't going to sign it, HRC said she was not for it. Rex Jan 2017 #44
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