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AtheistCrusader

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21. Have you not ever seen someone beaten to death?
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 06:38 PM
Jan 2017

They're still dead. Just to be clear.

Again, you are conflating poor people with 'dangerous people' when you target lawful gun ownership with increased fees/taxes/premiums, and time out to go take training courses. Dangerous people aren't going to give a shit and likely already deal in stolen firearms anyway.

Your idea of increasing the price to price out 'dangerous people' is just as wrong as instant classifications of people with mental health issues as 'dangerous', when in reality, they are more likely to be victims of violence, than perpetrators of violence. (I note you've gleefully made that error as well.)

6.) Insurance applications might ask questions or look a medical records to see if possessors have a history of depression, arrests, or background indicators of potential misuse without the need for a court to declare that you are insane.


So, basically you're managing to shit on the poor, and people with mental health issues.

https://news.ncsu.edu/2014/02/wms-desmarais-violence2014/

Your idea is bad, and you should feel bad.

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yay guns! and the idiots wielding them! KG Jan 2017 #1
Typical white wing gun fancier, just looking for justification to shoot someone, even one fleeing. Hoyt Jan 2017 #2
interisting ideas. i also notice that even when those were suggested the gun owners get upset. AllaN01Bear Jan 2017 #8
Couldn't run fast enough to get it back, so he dropped him. Judi Lynn Jan 2017 #20
Can't fix stupid DeminPennswoods Jan 2017 #3
Ignorance is no excuse. NT Ilsa Jan 2017 #4
Here's the kind of law that Missouri should have passed.... Sancho Jan 2017 #5
pretty good ideas. safeinOhio Jan 2017 #7
So, basically you only want the 1% to have guns. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #11
Yep...if you are too poor to drive or buy groceries, you don't need a gun! Sancho Jan 2017 #13
So, poor people are dangerous? AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #14
No...you're the one who said you were too poor to own a gun... Sancho Jan 2017 #16
I'm not, in fact, I meet some of the storage and insurnace requirements you specify. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #18
If dangerous people don't have easy access to guns, then the need for self-defense is a small issue. Sancho Jan 2017 #19
Have you not ever seen someone beaten to death? AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #21
I specifically said...NOT A MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS...but an assessment of safety to have a gun. Sancho Jan 2017 #22
Pricing poor people out of firearms does not 'prevent dangerous people from easy access to guns'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #23
Yep...I knew it was a legalistic issue... Sancho Jan 2017 #25
You didn't say dangerous earlier. You said depression. These are not the same thing. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #26
So if it is not illegal than it is autmatically moral? HopeAgain Jan 2017 #6
More to come! HAB911 Jan 2017 #9
These laws will eventually go away, and it'll start in Florida. cab67 Jan 2017 #10
Huh. Good point. Sounds right. randome Jan 2017 #12
Try taking a gun to Disney World and see what happens. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2017 #17
Disney just turns you around at the metal detectors. ManiacJoe Jan 2017 #24
Before one can claim Stand Your Ground, one first has to claim self defense. ManiacJoe Jan 2017 #15
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