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progressoid

(53,204 posts)
53. 3 day or 10 day recess - what difference does it make?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jan 2012

The president has an opportunity to fill critical positions that they have been blocking. Should we wait another year? Two?

They're playing hard ball and we're afraid to come out of the dugout.


Here:

A few commentators have suggested that this precedent only applies to what are known as “intersession” recesses — that is, the recess that occurs around the beginning of each new year when one session of Congress ends and another begins. Under this theory, President Obama blew his chance to make recess appointments when he allowed the second session of the 112th Congress to begin at noon today without making any appointments. This argument, however, has no basis in the Constitution itself. As Evans explains, “the text of the Constitution does not differentiate expressly between inter- and intrasession recesses for the Recess Appointments Clause,” and “the main purpose of the Recess Appointments Clause—to enable the President to fill vacancies to assure the proper functioning of our government —supports reading both intrasession recesses and intersession recesses as within the correct scope of the Clause.”

Recess appointments during very brief recesses are not common, but they are only uncommon because few if any senators have ever engaged in the kind of systematic and determined effort to prevent America from governing itself that began once Mitch McConnell took over as Senate Minority Leader. McConnell’s rampant obstructionism can be summed up in just one chart:



That chart represents the number of times a cloture motion — a motion seeking to break a Senate filibuster — was filed in every recent Congress. The massive spike at the end, where the number of cloture motions more than doubles, coincides with when McConnell took over as Minority Leader.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/03/396384/president-obama-reportedly-will-make-recess-appointments-today-or-tomorrow/

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Of course he won't. It would upset the GOP. ixion Jan 2012 #1
Oh please, don't you get tired of your constant whine?...n/t monmouth Jan 2012 #4
Oh please, don't you get tired of your constant water carrying? comipinko Jan 2012 #5
Just to clarify Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #10
Because only once in history did a president make recess appointments onenote Jan 2012 #14
What is the difference between making the appointments now Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #17
The length of the recess in which they were made onenote Jan 2012 #21
My point being is that the republicans Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #23
speaking of tradition Charlemagne Jan 2012 #29
More theory than reality in recent years onenote Jan 2012 #48
Well, how about making it three instances?? Do you think for a moment Bush would not have done so? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #61
Okay atreides1 Jan 2012 #24
Bush I didn't onenote Jan 2012 #27
Well that's some pretty convoluted thinking. progressoid Jan 2012 #33
So if Bush I had made recess appointments on January 3 1992 you'd have been fine with it? onenote Jan 2012 #49
3 day or 10 day recess - what difference does it make? progressoid Jan 2012 #53
Recess appointments during the faux intrasession recesses are more defensible onenote Jan 2012 #56
Please...At THIS point, with THIS congress?....Alll bets should be off. whathehell Jan 2012 #64
yeah - what you say! fuck da fuckin constitution anyway.... 24601 Feb 2012 #82
what tires me are moral relativists ixion Jan 2012 #16
Wrong. efhmc Jan 2012 #66
The lower case p is a nice touch.... snooper2 Mar 2012 #84
Of course not, that would NOT be bi-patisan. comipinko Jan 2012 #2
And the corporate federation grows. nineteen50 Jan 2012 #3
Color me surprised. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #6
Wouldn't want to rock the boat! nt Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #7
Consider the downside... immoderate Jan 2012 #8
Sure. The next (R) takes one microsecond to push hundreds of appointments through. boppers Jan 2012 #59
I think Bush already did that. immoderate Jan 2012 #73
This is not the way I would play it if I were President right now. Lasher Jan 2012 #9
I'm shocked paulk Jan 2012 #11
"Just Another Servant Of The Too-Big-To-JAIL!" dougolat Jan 2012 #12
last paragraph OKNancy Jan 2012 #13
wow i think the gop can just stay home looks like our leader is doing their work for them. leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #15
Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad JoePhilly Jan 2012 #18
yea by bo himself leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #20
Was he supposed to do it in the few seconds between the 2 sessions? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #22
Some here apparently think so onenote Jan 2012 #25
Though I don't find the "whining" nearly as annoying... kenfrequed Jan 2012 #30
Where did I mention OWS?? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #32
More bad analogies kenfrequed Jan 2012 #34
The issue in the OP is a recess appointment. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #35
Really? kenfrequed Jan 2012 #36
I did not write the what you call the "primary contrary opinion" that you site. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #37
so.. kenfrequed Jan 2012 #40
What policy failure does this discussion address? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #43
The outrage is about policy kenfrequed Jan 2012 #46
The opinion of the poster as I read it was that a recess appointment onenote Jan 2012 #50
People were defending NOT making appointments. kenfrequed Jan 2012 #68
Can you point me to those posts? onenote Jan 2012 #69
Uhm well, I know you will wiggle and spin on this but this was a response you posted to a challenge. kenfrequed Jan 2012 #74
No wiggle or spin. The issue was whether Obama should try to make a recess appointment during onenote Jan 2012 #78
yes. and just b/c you dont like what's said doesnt make it whining leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #39
I'm allowed my opinion ... and ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #41
I'm surprised a2liberal Jan 2012 #19
The creation of the sulphurdunn Jan 2012 #26
Yet further proof Charlemagne Jan 2012 #28
No doubt more multi-dimensional chess ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #31
... bigwillq Jan 2012 #38
as much as i disagree with obama on many issues... madrchsod Jan 2012 #42
Recess appointments made now would have been pretty much useless ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #44
So appoint them ALL 4dsc Jan 2012 #45
So don't do what's right because it would only help a little? Fearless Jan 2012 #55
"Liberal groups hoping... will be disappointed." slay Jan 2012 #47
.. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #51
Pray tell; why not??? Gringostan Jan 2012 #52
So another what he does and what we believe he thinks dichotomy grows. Fearless Jan 2012 #54
Another brilliant chess move! Zorra Jan 2012 #57
Great, he'll sign one of the ten worst bills in history, during recess tavalon Jan 2012 #58
What's on that list of ten bills? boppers Jan 2012 #60
Well, you aren't a terrorist, are you? So you've nothing to be concerned about. tavalon Jan 2012 #63
Obama Considering Cordray Recess Appointment as Soon as Tomorrow joshcryer Jan 2012 #62
Yep. Looks like this thread needs to come down Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #65
Delete---wrong thread Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #81
Obama to name new consumer watchdog Spazito Jan 2012 #67
Get this guy in there asap klook Jan 2012 #70
Maybe Mr. O will negotiate with the republicans and instead of russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #71
Nope. He appointed him!!! nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #76
I was wrong. You were right. And good for him... russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #77
Yep. Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #80
Sure he will. Why not? Islandlife Jan 2012 #72
He just did. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #75
Looks like a big FAIL. Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #79
The article was dated January 3. He did not make any appointments until January 4. Freddie Stubbs Mar 2012 #85
A big kick for clarity Kingofalldems Mar 2012 #83
Are all of you Freeper brained? this post is history! He made the recess appointment. nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #86
Thanks, so much, nanabugg. Perfect. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #87
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