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happyslug

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13. In Pennsylvania, Photo ID will deny to almost 10% of all voters the right to vote
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:46 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/05/pennsylvania-voter-id-law_n_1652469.html

http://articles.philly.com/2012-07-05/news/32537732_1_voter-id-new-voter-id-cards

Over 750,000 Pennsylvania Voters, many in Philadelphia for that is the single largest area with a population who do not own or drive an Automobile.

Other forms of Photo ID is also permitted, Passports, Military ID or Collage photo IDs.

Now these same people tend NOT to have pass ports or Military ID. Some may have a Collage Photo ID if that ID does NOT have an expiration date it can NOT be used This is a problem for ONLY TWO COLLAGES IN PENNSYLVANIA ISSUE IDs WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE, ALL THE OTHER COLLAGES IDs HAVE NO EXPIRATION DATE ON THEM (the Collages expires them the same way a Credit Card is expired, it is marked on the computer and when ever the ID is used, it kicks up as invalid).

Notice the difference between Military IDs and Collage IDs in regards to the need to have an expiration date. The reason for this is simple, enlisted IDs have always used the last date of enlistment as the expiration date, Officers IDs have no expiration date and are marked "Indefinite". When I was in the Service 20 years ago, Officers service ends with their resignation which is up to them to do OR not to do thus they ID must reflect that fact, i.e. they are officers till the time they resign. This is still the law, and if an Officer retired (but did NOT resign) he or she may still have a Military ID with an indefinite expiration date marked on it. Thus a Military officer can use his or her Military ID without an expiration date, but a Collage student can not use his or her Collage ID without an expiration date.

Military ID for Medical purposes do have an expiration date for Officers, BUT that was do to how the Card was formatted for Computer use, it was an error that would cost to much to fix:
http://moaablogs.org/financial/2008/09/expiration-date-on-the-back-of-your-military-id-card/

Pennsylvania even accepts that some Military IDs made have an "Indefinite" expiration date on it, but is still acceptable for voting:
http://phillyelection.com/PA_new_voter_id_law_military_voters.pdf

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CUE THE VONAGE THEME! rocktivity Jul 2012 #1
Congrats to NAACP and Voces de la Frontera, HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #2
Voter ID Laws are the only way... YOHABLO Jul 2012 #3
Free ID's GreenMask Jul 2012 #6
The rebuttal is simple. Igel Jul 2012 #9
How many does it affect? GreenMask Jul 2012 #10
Voter fraud isn't a proven problem right now. n/t eggplant Jul 2012 #11
Think about it. savalez Jul 2012 #12
In Pennsylvania, Photo ID will deny to almost 10% of all voters the right to vote happyslug Jul 2012 #13
Bank accounts and such... GreenMask Jul 2012 #19
Wow, you just agree with republicans about everything don't you? Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #20
Sounds like a troll to me. savalez Jul 2012 #23
Report: Voter ID Laws Put Undue Burden On 10 Million Voters savalez Jul 2012 #22
No there are NOT required by ANY LAW. happyslug Jul 2012 #24
No requirement by law... GreenMask Jul 2012 #26
I'm certain you have the will and the savvy to look into, research, and then present us LanternWaste Jul 2012 #27
If you avoid those transactions, and most of the people in question do happyslug Jul 2012 #29
:O Skittles Jul 2012 #18
You are forgetting the electronic voting machines, which present an even bigger problem. There Cal33 Jul 2012 #28
Could this get to the SCOTUS edhopper Jul 2012 #4
Isn't there some window before the election where electoral rules can't be changed? Posteritatis Jul 2012 #7
I would think if something is deemed unconstitutional edhopper Jul 2012 #8
Yes there is (National Voter Registration Act,) but Holder seems loathe to do anything about it. PSPS Jul 2012 #17
No, This was a STATE Court Decision based on the STATE Constitution NOT the Federal Constitution happyslug Jul 2012 #14
That is what I am thinking edhopper Jul 2012 #21
The US Supreme Court has already rule on Federal Law and Photo ID happyslug Jul 2012 #25
Thank God!!! Does it mean it is over in Wisconsin? Kteachums Jul 2012 #5
Voter fraud or election fraud SCVDem Jul 2012 #15
Arizona. We need a spotlight over here. lonestarnot Jul 2012 #16
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