Ellison tells DNC members that DNC chair rival is trying to skew race

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66. Agree entirely. You sound like a poor unappreciated liberal,

besieged from both the right and the left. Me too. You'd think our nation's liberal foundations, and the greatness built on them, would protect liberal ideals at least, but it's beginning to look like despising and opposing liberals is progressing to the dangerous extreme of despising democracy itself, and its requirement for governing through consensus.

What's sorta funny, but also alarming as extremism grows, is that while Bernie leads some on the more radical left, others farther left think Bernie's whole crowd are really little more than mainstreamers, malcontents masquerading as revolutionaries.

What's scaring me is that, though liberals are easily the largest orientation on the left, there are enough anti-Democrat il-liberals, all prone to seeking extreme solutions to imaginary crises, to replace our democracy with some version of fascism IF enough of them were to join the right against the Democrats. And there are people who are working on just that.

Other democracies have been destroyed just this way. Which is why, imo, we do need Bernie working with us as much as he is willing to. He just refused an attempt to draft him to lead a new party. He knows he could be taken out, and the party taken over, by a more extreme, equally charismatic competitor with powerful backers.