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Igel

(37,620 posts)
68. Yeah, they make a lot of people money.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 10:33 AM
Mar 2017

At the same time, some are tied to reductions in health or life insurance premiums. If you document that you take steps to stay healthy, you reduce risks and you're in a cheaper benefits pool.

For those, there's a built-in reward: Do things to document you're in a low-risk pool, pay less for insurance.

But what if you were doing all the right things at age 40 but knew you were at high risk for early-onset Alzheimer's because of your genetic history? Then at age 45 you're deep in medical bills, knew this, but let the record state you were in optimal health. Because it benefits you now to pay as little as possible, even though you get full benefits later. You're socializing risk and privatizing benefits.

I don't like wellness programs. The ones I've seen are pretty simplistic. "Oh, your weight says your BMI is way over the mark." But the person they're talking to bench presses 300 lbs and is ripped. Muscle = fat.

My BP is great, my heartrate is usually 60. But a couple of times a week the pulse soars to 140 and the BP is 115/95. See part of the picture, it's great. See the other part, not great. I know when I'm in atrial flutter (or atrial fibrillation) and could easily not get checked at those times. I could deceive my employer. I'd consider this to be fraud. Knowing one thing and hiding that information in order to get a discount based on a lie.

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This is a must read. dalton99a Mar 2017 #1
Genetics for Eugenics... defacto7 Mar 2017 #22
Snopes' take.... pepperbear Mar 2017 #50
This will backfire on them Stryst Mar 2017 #2
I did a DNA test last summer. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #3
There are a lot of different genetics tests... defacto7 Mar 2017 #23
I chose Ancestry's test because of their genealogical data. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #32
Actually it can have health implications . . . interesting story Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #25
That's quite a story. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #34
Definitely intrusive, as part of a job interview/employment requirement. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #36
I think that someone who uses AI to have a child would be open to expanding their knowledge. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #35
If this bill passes, it will be headed for a Fourth Amendment smackdown of epic proportions. Aristus Mar 2017 #4
I don't think the RWers on the Court appreciate the 4th. NT Ilsa Mar 2017 #28
Why? Igel Mar 2017 #67
They're the 'limited, unobtrusive, small government' party. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #5
Yeah! I thought republicans were anti-penalty. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #47
I guess it's not the g o pee ers in government invading the citzens' lives like a dictator state Mc Mike Mar 2017 #49
It's limiting government's check on corporate power. Eugene Mar 2017 #62
Yeah. But that's not how they sell it to their rabble. nt Mc Mike Mar 2017 #64
Long term "white" Southerners will be against this bigly. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #6
good point. nt defacto7 Mar 2017 #27
All the conservatives should be against this - bigly FakeNoose Mar 2017 #56
"White" folks in the south who have been here for generations have a particular fear about their rzemanfl Mar 2017 #58
Must be to ferret out trans people vlyons Mar 2017 #7
And people who don't meet the MAWA requirement GAH iluvtennis Mar 2017 #9
This is not just hateful. It's freakin' SCARY!!! calimary Mar 2017 #40
Who would want this? Renew Deal Mar 2017 #8
Big Insurance. CousinIT Mar 2017 #10
Dead on!!! Grins Mar 2017 #19
It hurts the cons as much as the libs FakeNoose Mar 2017 #57
Exactly DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #20
And would it require the government's "employer rights" Guilded Lilly Mar 2017 #11
You realize that you could have an amazing career in stand-up comedy don't you? Stonepounder Mar 2017 #15
Samantha Bee has me on speed dial of course!!! Bwahahaha. Guilded Lilly Mar 2017 #16
The wicked hag of North Carolina!!! atreides1 Mar 2017 #12
Not to put too fine a point on it. ffr Mar 2017 #14
She's vile. Called Matthew Shepard's murder a hoax. NT Ilsa Mar 2017 #44
Those small government KGOP'ers are intruding on out liberties at every turn ffr Mar 2017 #13
The sooner we stop listening to rural voters the better off we'll be. Initech Mar 2017 #17
The GOP is horrible: they themselves would lose their jobs if they had to take a test like this. C Moon Mar 2017 #18
Really RobinA Mar 2017 #21
They probably think there can be exceptions for defacto7 Mar 2017 #26
This serves literally no purpose other than to discriminate against employees meadowlander Mar 2017 #24
Well they must hire only those who make up this "super race" still_one Mar 2017 #29
This imfo must be targeted in the sponsors district!... Now! Lostnote Mar 2017 #30
Welcome to DU, Lostnote! calimary Mar 2017 #42
Thank you Cali... Been viewing DU before Black Box was a Box/lol Lostnote Mar 2017 #51
The article states that "workplace wellness programs" Tanuki Mar 2017 #31
Yeah, they make a lot of people money. Igel Mar 2017 #68
Every single one of us carries markers PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #33
Workplace 'wellness' programs are the worst invasion of privacy. joanbarnes Mar 2017 #37
Well there goes HIPA in one fell swoop. Expect a legal challenge. Hekate Mar 2017 #38
Would they give it up for their genetic history to be used? lunatica Mar 2017 #41
this is just more of the right wing neo-fascism. bringing back eugenics. nt Javaman Mar 2017 #43
NEO-NAZIS Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #45
Needs To Be Watched CitizenZero Mar 2017 #46
Surely they would not discriminate??? keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #48
This absolutely TERRIFIES me Paula Sims Mar 2017 #52
From the party that was on it's knees for Hitler. Dawson Leery Mar 2017 #53
I'm generally OK with wellness programs. I think they help people and keep Hoyt Mar 2017 #54
It seems more than a bit unnecessary. Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #61
Thank You Sir for this post.... HR1313 should be referred to as HR666... Lostnote Mar 2017 #55
Get that in court ASAP. mpcamb Mar 2017 #59
This is some scary shit. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #60
And if they force you into a genetic test will they then own it? Kind of applegrove Mar 2017 #63
1984 has been trumped El Mimbreno Mar 2017 #65
Should be interesting. 1 in 467 are NOT the XX/XY they think they are... Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #66
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