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The Velveteen Ocelot

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30. "Free market" economics is Ryan's religion.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

GOPers, especially those of the Ryan ilk, believe in the "free market" to the point of fanaticism. It's like a religion to them. They believe that every aspect of society should be subject to the "free market," and they believe this as absolutely as Christians believe in the Resurrection. The Resurrection can't be proved scientifically, but Christians believe it anyhow, as an article of faith. In fact, the fact that it can't be explained and that it happened only that one time sort of proves its miraculous nature, which in a rather circular manner supports that faith.

Likewise, Ryanites believe in the unprovable miracle of the free market. But while the Resurrection can't be proved, it hasn't ever actually been disproved either (although its extreme unlikelihood, given the basic rules of biology and physics, is certainly demonstrable). The claimed absolute perfection of free-market economics, in contrast, has been regularly disproved. Reagan's "trickle-down" economics doesn't work. We've seen proof of that over and over. For one thing, there's no such thing as a free market; the marketplace has rules that even Ryanites accept, such as the court system. Most federal litigation involves businesses vs. businesses in which a party is seeking, for example, to enforce or avoid a contract or protect intellectual property. The free market has its own acknowledged rules, so it's not really "free."

And some things can't be managed by a free market at all. No sane insurance executive would go into the business of insuring sick old people because it would be too expensive to provide coverage, and therefore nobody could afford to pay the premiums. This is precisely why we have Medicare. The alternative of just letting people go broke and/or die was, at least for some, completely unacceptable, but because this group of people is effectively uninsurable in a free insurance market, the government stepped in. The ACA was an attempt to remain within a free-ish market system (because it was politically impossible to get a far-superior single-payer system past the GOP) but still make insurance affordable for most people, using government subsidies.

There is simply no way for Ryan's free market to make affordable health insurance available to everyone who needs it. Insurance, by its very nature, is pure socialism: Everybody pays into a pool for the future possible needs of everyone, but some people will never need the benefits while others will. It is this very un-free-market nature of universal coverage that the Ryanites hate because it contradicts their deeply-held religious belief in the free market, which doesn't really exist. The cruel results of this rigid belief as applied to health insurance is unimportant because, like so many religions, adherence to the core belief is more important than anything else.

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God how I hate that smarmy little jerk! Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #1
and his horrible janterry Mar 2017 #6
He is under the misapprehension that he is "cute." WinkyDink Mar 2017 #46
+1 narnian60 Mar 2017 #31
Typical Republican sociopathy. dalton99a Mar 2017 #2
"You get it if you want it"? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #3
"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose....." WinkyDink Mar 2017 #47
+1 Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #67
I wish people would kick Ryan's sorry ass out of office in 2018 n2doc Mar 2017 #4
Gerrymandered districts in Wi. Scarsdale Mar 2017 #15
Congress should get no better insurance than they offer all. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #53
"it's up to the people" LakeArenal Mar 2017 #5
Coward Scarsdale Mar 2017 #17
The truth is Desert grandma Mar 2017 #7
Ryan isn't stupid; he full well knows this. He simply doesn't care. Ryan is all about the Uber- WinkyDink Mar 2017 #48
he's a revolting excuse Faux pas Mar 2017 #8
Lyin' Ryan the Social Security moocher: I got mine...F*CK the rest y'all Submariner Mar 2017 #9
I agree with Paul Krugman NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #10
So the millions who had Medicaid coverage or heavily subsidized insurance subterranean Mar 2017 #11
Here we go again with the undeserving poor bullshit. Blue Idaho Mar 2017 #12
Exactly Scarsdale Mar 2017 #20
This is a little dated, but the situation has not fundamentally changed since it was published... Moostache Mar 2017 #63
Those at the bottom being single mom's.... LakeArenal Mar 2017 #22
Those children they were so insistent be born. BarbaRosa Mar 2017 #59
+1 Yes but they are children now and none a fetus anymore so they no longer care about them lunasun Mar 2017 #62
Republican "freedom" at its finest ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #13
More importantly, they are free to not give a damn. LakeArenal Mar 2017 #23
Yes, this! What a contortion of the freedom concept. JudyM Mar 2017 #39
To Sum Up :,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2017 #14
... and Iphones Dorn Mar 2017 #21
I once heard a gop say "95% of poor have refrigerators" LakeArenal Mar 2017 #25
I can get an iPhone for $27 a month... Blue Idaho Mar 2017 #35
There was a documentary on a ship sinking Turbineguy Mar 2017 #16
More Blame The Victim DallasNE Mar 2017 #18
Ryan said. "People are going to do what they want to do with their lives." aka DIE Dorn Mar 2017 #19
Yes! That's what I want to do with my life as well. Defund all the LuckyLib Mar 2017 #26
Bullshit -- there is a mandate in the AHCA -- you pay a 30% premium surcharge for a year progree Mar 2017 #24
What complicated BS -- and of course the insurance companies come out on top. LuckyLib Mar 2017 #28
Great point: ACA: the fine goes to the U.S. Treasury. AHCA: the fine goes to the insurance company progree Mar 2017 #32
Why can't Dickerson then ask: JDC Mar 2017 #27
Blame the victim Blue Idaho Mar 2017 #36
+1000 harun Mar 2017 #69
LOL "freedom" - yeah Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #29
"Free market" economics is Ryan's religion. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #30
+1 dalton99a Mar 2017 #43
+1 Beartracks Mar 2017 #57
Translation: "I don't care what happens to you." nt neeksgeek Mar 2017 #33
That statement is just inane. sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #34
the old let them eat cake attitude conservatives have for America.... beachbum bob Mar 2017 #37
I want to smack him. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #38
Paul Ryan is a fucking scumbag. nt TeamPooka Mar 2017 #40
Once again, Republican Jesus proves money is the focus. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #41
Ryan, like Scrooge in the Christmas Carol, PatrickforO Mar 2017 #42
Disgusting jerk gademocrat7 Mar 2017 #44
So basically, to R's, health insurance is a commodity, even a luxury item. Buy it or don't! WinkyDink Mar 2017 #45
You can hear Ryan in the gym sayin" I f@@ked those sick people good. Hey bro can you spot me?" bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #49
Randian a-hole. nt Cognitive_Resonance Mar 2017 #50
It's up to you, Jim Bob. You can spend your $12,000 on a house for the family to live in or you Vinca Mar 2017 #51
"It's up to people" Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #52
"The people have no bread." --- "Let them eat cake!" tblue37 Mar 2017 #54
Let's do away with police and fire departments, too. Leave it up to people... Beartracks Mar 2017 #55
SoylentCare: It's Up to People. Beartracks Mar 2017 #56
I wonder who Pope Francis had in mind when he said "better to be an atheist than a hypocritical still_one Mar 2017 #58
Wow. Just wow. Very compassionate to the people who can't pay for it. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #60
aka "fuck you if you don't like our plan". nt Javaman Mar 2017 #61
What an insufferable little prick he is. emmadoggy Mar 2017 #64
Ryan: Number Who Will Lose Health Coverage Under Repeal Is 'Up To People' mdbl Mar 2017 #65
This Idea RobinA Mar 2017 #66
"You get it if you want it. That's freedom...People are going to do what they want to do with their WinkyDink Mar 2017 #68
Might as well go full Monty...do away with speed limits and age of consent and SticksnStones Mar 2017 #70
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