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Amimnoch

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185. Not a point you raised had a thing to do with the points I raised.

Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:38 PM

Apr 2017

"Some can't stand that he talks the truth about things." Really? That's what some can't stand? Were you also in the "they hate us for our freedom" boat? I'm sorry FDRsGhost, but that is an absolutely ridiculous assumption.

I will grant you.. he does speak a LOT of great truth. Speaking for myself, that is something I do love about him.
Your point about him being a straight shooter? Yep. I concur that is both accurate, and very admirable.

Neither of those were assertions, or arguments I made above.

Trump has a VERY good chance of being a 1 termer. The two ways we can throw away that opportunity is to field a Democrat that is weak on the issues and unpopular, OR to have a hotly contested Democratic primary. Pretty certain that, unless he's impeached before then (highly unlikely given his party's majority and complete willingness to ignore everything repugnant about him), Trump's not going to be fighting a primary challenge of any significance, if at all.

If Sanders wanted to be the Democratic Party candidate for 2020, he REALLY should have remained in the Democratic Party, and built the coalition of support needed to be THE candidate for the party in 2020. After dropping the Democratic party label right after losing the Primary, do you really think the Democrats, who give their endorsements, are going to swarm to him if throws on the Democrat mantle, and he runs again in 2020?

Do you REALLY think we need to do 2016 all over again? The Democratic Party will rally around a candidate that comes from within the Democratic party.

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Poll: Sanders Is Most Popular Senator Among Constituents; McConnell Is Least [View all] DonViejo Apr 2017 OP

Of course he is! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #1

Right? A tireless fighter for the 99% is popular? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #112

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #2

Just proves.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #3

Which Democrats do you want to purge? nt comradebillyboy Apr 2017 #33

Tulsi Gabbard jackssonjack Apr 2017 #61

because she doesn't toe the line on foreign policy? yurbud Apr 2017 #155

It seems that if you're not a warhawk, you don't belong in this country. (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #193

those of us old enough to remember the Cold War and its end know the new demons yurbud Apr 2017 #204

Yes! That's why Vietnam happened FakeNoose Apr 2017 #207

It appears that if you dissent even slightly from a specific manifesto ehrnst Apr 2017 #218

Because she is a conservative democrat in a progressive district La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #213

I think you are making a huge assumption. jackssonjack Apr 2017 #60

I don't trust the vote tallies in the 1980 Reagan election and then all the ones in which gopiscrap Apr 2017 #136

+1 brer cat Apr 2017 #153

I agree about the voter suppression, but have to ask, what has the Democratic Party done to stop it? That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #211

I couldn't agree with you more. potone Feb 2019 #219

Nope the loses are largely due to being to focused on the Presidency and the Federal elections while cstanleytech Apr 2017 #66

I think you're both correct FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #134

Three things to point out... George II Apr 2017 #4

Interesting how phony the headline is- thank you ! bettyellen Apr 2017 #6

Variations of this type of poll have appeared here on DU four or five times in the last month. George II Apr 2017 #7

I've seen the one about Fox viewers many times. It's more propaganda. bettyellen Apr 2017 #8

Yes, and someone in this discussion has already dragged in that highly subjective poll. George II Apr 2017 #11

Yup, repetitive, almost spam. Certainly not Latest Breaking. R B Garr Apr 2017 #44

I saw an OP on this just last week. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #51

The headline isn't phony.. cannabis_flower Apr 2017 #21

Thanks, cannabis_flower. elleng Apr 2017 #23

!!! Alice11111 Apr 2017 #62

Perhaps ... "among own constituents" or "among local constituents" or "among their constituents" NurseJackie Apr 2017 #31

Down 12 points, but still most popular! ehrnst Apr 2017 #32

States constituents? Yeah it's an odd phrasing that sounds like a big deal bettyellen Apr 2017 #35

Senators constituents is perfectly clear. karynnj Apr 2017 #72

+1 beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #116

What do you think constituent means? "own" "local" and "their" are not needed karynnj Apr 2017 #70

If they were switched (as you suggest) something tells me that nobody would care very much... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #75

Every poll ever done shows that Bernie's approval rating in Vermont is unusally high karynnj Apr 2017 #76

Correct. I don't understand how anyone can disagree with the poll results. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #106

Good for Bernie! Only... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #107

Familiarity goes both ways karynnj Apr 2017 #164

Okay-y-y-y-y. Whatever. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #165

I'm personally inviting you to visit our wonderful state of Vermont,NurseJackie. democrank Apr 2017 #201

Vermont is great. Everyone should visit. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #216

Vermont is unusually white, rural and lefty ehrnst Apr 2017 #217

In terms of actual people (i.e., "constituents") not percentage, he's one of the least "popular"... George II Apr 2017 #125

That is one of the dumbest thing I ever heard. nt karynnj Apr 2017 #126

Just pointing out how "dumb" the whole premise of this poll is. George II Apr 2017 #128

The poll is not dumb - it reflects how each is viewed by the people they represent karynnj Apr 2017 #131

Actually is obviously easier for ANY Senator to get high numbers if they're from a state... George II Apr 2017 #135

Wow! So, NINE out of the "top-ten" were from the LEAST POPULOUS states? That's very ... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #182

Yes, and the four "most popular" Senators are from the two least populated states - VT and WY. George II Apr 2017 #184

This suggests to me that it's not merely a coincidence... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #187

Great analogy. George II Apr 2017 #189

Definition of constituent: cannabis_flower Apr 2017 #78

So then Chuck Schumer is immensely more "popular" than Sanders since.... George II Apr 2017 #101

Not.. cannabis_flower Apr 2017 #104

Constituent wise he is. George II Apr 2017 #108

The smaller the group, the easier it is to get their approval. Especially one with the... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #113

Now that he's this popular, lapucelle Apr 2017 #127

We can always hope. I'm inclined to keep my expectations low... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #129

I met Gabbie Gifford and heard her speak lapucelle Apr 2017 #132

I guess it all depends on what their motivation is, and who they fear the most. Voters or lobbyists. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #133

By that logic, Donald Trump is more popular than any Senator - with his constituents. karynnj Apr 2017 #178

To put it in better perspective, and to demonstrate the ludicrousness of this "poll"... George II Apr 2017 #96

Yep! That's putting it into perspective. Small-state senators have to stroll over a hill... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #130

Thank you, cannabis_flower! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #81

It's misleading, as is that ridiculous "poll". George II Apr 2017 #85

It appears that Vermont is not a very racially diverse state. Depending on the reference source... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #179

As a matter of fact, Vermont is tied for first (with Idaho, Montana, NH, Utah, and Wyoming) for... George II Apr 2017 #180

Before now, I never realized how WHITE Vermont is. I've never visted there... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #181

It's pretty homogeneous in "northern" New England - Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine.... George II Apr 2017 #183

Somehow every single poll that shows something positive about Bernie is automatically bad. (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #194

The headline is straightforward and accurate Bradical79 Apr 2017 #41

Why do you say it is phony? karynnj Apr 2017 #67

It's almost like people twist data to make Bernie Sanders look like a messiah... Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #14

Can he walk on water yet? nt jrthin Apr 2017 #20

No, but at least he walks, and perseveres. Alice11111 Apr 2017 #63

Yes - in Burlington, he can walk on Lake Champlain for most of December through February nt karynnj Apr 2017 #80

It's true! I'VE SEEN IT! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #118

It's a miracle and a beautiful sight! karynnj Apr 2017 #124

ah, no ... he is considered to do his job well by an unusually large percent of his constituents karynnj Apr 2017 #79

An "unusually large percent of his constituents" from an unusually small state population-wise. George II Apr 2017 #86

Yep -- that is his state and while small it is a great state with a Congressional delegation that karynnj Apr 2017 #90

It says constituents rpannier Apr 2017 #160

C'mon George! Say something nice about Bernie! Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #27

I'd love to hear some Bernie quotes of him saying nice things about Democrats! KittyWampus Apr 2017 #48

I don't live in Vermont, I'm not one of his constituents, so I don't follow him much.... George II Apr 2017 #54

Snap! lunamagica Apr 2017 #87

Thanks for the confirmation that this is fake news. R B Garr Apr 2017 #43

Only voters count. BUT, more important than Bernie, Hortensis Apr 2017 #142

I'm sure ole Mitch polls GWC58 Apr 2017 #53

Thank you so much George LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #57

Once again, an objective view of this "poll" would come to the conclusion that Chuck Schumer.... George II Apr 2017 #73

Once again thank you immensely LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #97

Obviously people who live in bigger states are more superior than people who live in smaller states bekkilyn Apr 2017 #195

Yeah, but Bernie generally does well with the demographics you're mentioning MrPurple Apr 2017 #200

Thanks for the clarification, George lunamagica Apr 2017 #84

Mahalo for the Clarification, George.. I was thinking WTH? Cha Apr 2017 #93

All I care about is that McConnell's state hates him as much as I do...makes me smile nt adigal Apr 2017 #109

Yes, that's one thing that has been lost in this discussion. George II Apr 2017 #111

Thanks for clarifying this, George. brer cat Apr 2017 #154

The title says among constituents rpannier Apr 2017 #159

Had someone last week on DU tell me that Vermont is too small for that to count. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #5

Funny that.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #9

You're incorrect, what I pointed ( as that "someone") out about a DIFFERENT poll, thank you, is.... George II Apr 2017 #10

I wasn't attempting to pick a fight. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #15

Yes, but you linked to a post of mine (that "someone") from about a week ago. George II Apr 2017 #18

That's not what that link says, but thanks- it's good information to have. bettyellen Apr 2017 #13

The link I referenced says the same thing as this poll for Bernie. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #17

The link you referenced was a Democratic Underground post by me. George II Apr 2017 #52

That's ridiculous. HuffPo's pollster tracks national ratings and Bernie's are quite high. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #83

Deflection George II Apr 2017 #89

Inconvenient facts are "deflection"? Latest: Favorable 55.7% Unfavorable 32.7% beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #91

The subject is Morning Consult's poll rating 100 Senators in their states. George II Apr 2017 #98

The subject is Bernie's amazing popularity. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #100

You should read the subject line again as well as the OP. Thank you. George II Apr 2017 #102

Lemme read it again...ayup. That's what I thought - Bernie is STILL the MOST POPULAR SENATOR! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #103

Why are you lopping off part of the subject line? George II Apr 2017 #110

Not only is Bernie the most POPULAR senator he also enjoys high favourability nationally. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #114

Not the subject of this discussion. Since you truncated it above, here is the subject: George II Apr 2017 #119

Yep, our amazing Bernie is still the MOST POPULAR! This is a GOOD thing! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #120

The "most popular" to whom? George II Apr 2017 #121

Cheers! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #123

Why aren't facts shown where others are more popular than Bernie? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #137

The big blunder/faux pas of this poll about "popularity" is that it defines that word.... George II Apr 2017 #147

Why are you dismissing the fact FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #148

Show us the stat that he IS the "most popular politician today", not just the "most popular"... George II Apr 2017 #150

To the fake noozers. They're going to define R B Garr Apr 2017 #145

I like your style.. beam me up disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #174

WTF do 54% of Kentucky approve of? world wide wally Apr 2017 #12

When reading anything pro Bernie.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #16

Yes, a fair # of 'wreck' posts around here. elleng Apr 2017 #28

Exactly..nicely put LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #55

When reading the numerous iterations of these meaningless polls synergie Apr 2017 #69

Well said, nice turn of phrase! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #95

Sometimes I have to keep reminding myself this isn't a right-wing site bekkilyn Apr 2017 #196

Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Apr 2017 #19

Yet the Turtle Head was just re-elected! Dustlawyer Apr 2017 #25

I just can't get my mind around that. smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #47

Makes you wonder. Dustlawyer Apr 2017 #59

That was hilarious..... LeftInTX Apr 2017 #26

Interesting Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #22

Thanks for picking this up, Tom. elleng Apr 2017 #24

They have their bots set up to auto-reply their negativity. Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #34

That would be funny if it didn't happen to the Dem candidate last year- bettyellen Apr 2017 #36

Can't disagree re the fake Sanders supporting bots. Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #37

So the irony of claiming Sanders is a victim is a bit galling- you get how tone deaf that is? bettyellen Apr 2017 #38

Don't really wanna do this, but he is a racist now? Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #39

People get posts hidden quoting Bernie's own words R B Garr Apr 2017 #58

FYI, someone just alerted this post, claiming that you are Tanuki Apr 2017 #92

LOL, thanks for telling me. R B Garr Apr 2017 #144

I got a post hidden for mentioning our previous VP bekkilyn Apr 2017 #197

Then choose not to do it. synergie Apr 2017 #88

Where the fuck did I say that? No where, not ever. You owe me an apology. bettyellen Apr 2017 #115

I think I misinterpreted this Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #139

Appreciate your response, thanks LL. Wish it had been the first time I'd heard that accusation bettyellen Apr 2017 #156

So the first rule about the Democratic party is....you don't talk about the Democratic party? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #64

Yay! Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #68

Never said "no time" is the right time, funny how you heard that. I've also been accused of calling bettyellen Apr 2017 #99

Once again...where have I heard this type of logic before... LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #122

Great post! StubbornThings Apr 2017 #186

When would be the right time if not now? StubbornThings Apr 2017 #188

You've got to be kidding. The election was rigged w foreign intervention and that should be the bettyellen Apr 2017 #191

I'm not talking about just the presidency. Not sure why that was so hard to understand. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #192

There's an age old fact about elections known as "coat tails". George II Apr 2017 #203

Most of those contests didn't take place in 2016. nt StubbornThings Apr 2017 #206

Very well said! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #105

+1 (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #198

"They have their bots set up to auto-reply their negativity" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #56

From the other threads i've read through the problem isn't Bernie's stated positions, jackssonjack Apr 2017 #71

Fair questions Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #74

I have literally seen the phrase jackssonjack Apr 2017 #82

You have literally seen the phrase. Gosh I must be wrong then Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #94

Thankyou Tom LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #117

No really it's not amazing. jackssonjack Apr 2017 #143

I tip my hat to you... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #167

It seems like your sole purpose on this thread is to attack Sanders Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #171

Big +1. JudyM Apr 2017 #157

About that "Bernie doesn't attack Republicans" thing FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #140

Those softball words are attacks? jackssonjack Apr 2017 #146

Softball? LOL FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #149

Why doesn't Sanders pay his own Senate interns $15 an hour? George II Apr 2017 #151

Why do you show up on every thread about Bernie and trash talk? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #161

Many politicians aren't going around talking about the need for a $15 minimum wage.... George II Apr 2017 #173

And therein is the problem FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #176

What does all this have to do with the subject of the discussion? George II Apr 2017 #152

I was responding to his assertion FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #162

Almost all of us are adults. I think we can discuss other things. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #190

Why does Sanders seem to find ways to make gratuitous insults to the Democratic party? KittyWampus Apr 2017 #49

Perfect case in point Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #65

+1 FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #141

It's rather amazing isn't it? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #168

Bernie could well be our next President if he and the Democratic Party can work together in 2020. jalan48 Apr 2017 #29

Absolutely. He's got the energy to do it. So I don't want to hear he's ''too old'' Bullshit. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #46

I would hope at this point that isn't his plan. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #175

I think he's going about it just fine FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #177

Not a point you raised had a thing to do with the points I raised. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #185

Well what else is it then? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #199

Nope. We don't need that negativity again at all. JTFrog Apr 2017 #202

Popular among his constituents - a small, white, rural, lefty population. ehrnst Apr 2017 #30

IMO, Mitch McConnell is probably... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #40

The poll highlights a huge problem Bradical79 Apr 2017 #42

If he is so unpopular Scalded Nun Apr 2017 #45

So, when does Mc Turtle Come Up For Re-Election Vogon_Glory Apr 2017 #50

This is great news but hardly surprising. Polls consistently prove Bernie enjoys high favourability: beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #77

well duh!! Kimchijeon Apr 2017 #138

Mc Connell is least??? However is that possible rpannier Apr 2017 #158

He doesn't have to work for his constituents FakeNoose Apr 2017 #208

And Sarah Palin was one of the most popular governors in America. betsuni Apr 2017 #163

Palin served half of one four year term, and her popularity was plunging. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #169

So what? betsuni Apr 2017 #170

75% approval among constituents is definitely an indicator of success. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #166

Very Popular itcfish Apr 2017 #172

I'm sure they love Mitch in Russia. nt cstanleytech Apr 2017 #205

Yet McTurtle gets re-elected because not enough people who disapprove of him vote. Lanius Apr 2017 #209

And Louisville is a very diverse city. Homogeneous small populations ehrnst Apr 2017 #212

Surprised to see Elizabeth Warren only at 56% ehrnst Apr 2017 #210

The biggest piece of shit to ever be SML. Fuck him. Initech Apr 2017 #214

Conversely: McConnell most powerful Senator; Sanders least maxsolomon Apr 2017 #215