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DonViejo

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Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:57 AM Apr 2017

NYT: Trump Didn't Know How FISA Worked Before Making Obama Wiretap Claim [View all]

Source: Talking Points Memo



By ALLEGRA KIRKLAND Published APRIL 14, 2017, 11:14 AM EDT

President Donald Trump waited until after publicly accusing his predecessor of wiretapping his campaign headquarters to ask aides how Barack Obama would have been able to obtain a warrant to do so, the New York Times reported Thursday.

According to the Times’ article, which chronicled Trump’s steep learning curve in the Oval Office, the President did not understand the system that governs the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Obama would have needed to ask his Justice Department to request a FISA warrant to eavesdrop on a U.S. building like Trump Tower, which the court would have only granted if there was substantial evidence that the individuals that would be under surveillance were working as agents of a foreign power.

In his explosive pre-dawn tweets on March 4, Trump alleged that Obama had his “wires tapped” ahead of the election.

Despite a total lack of evidence, Trump’s aides backed that wild claim, with White House counselor Kellyanne Conway telling “Fox and Friends” that as President, Trump “has information and intelligence that the rest of us do not.”

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-reportedly-didnt-know-fisa-worked-before-obama-wiretap-allegation



The Daily 202: Trump doesn’t know much about history. It’s making his on-the-job training harder.

By James Hohmann April 14 at 11:25 AM

THE BIG IDEA: Donald Trump believed he could convince China to pressure North Korea to stop its nuclear activities. Then President Xi Jinping tutored him on the history of the region.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized that it’s not so easy,” Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, recounting the session at Mar-a-Lago. “You know, I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power over North Korea. But it’s not what you would think."

This comment is funny because, in 2011, Trump claimed that he has read “hundreds of books about China over the decades,” including works by Henry Kissinger, American journalists and Chinese novelists. Looking to do more business with Beijing, he provided a list of 20 books about China to Xinhua, the official Chinese news agency, that he said had helped him understand the country, its politics and its people. “I know the Chinese. I've made a lot of money with the Chinese. I understand the Chinese mind,” Trump said six years ago. His list had some surprising titles on it, including “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother.”

Color me skeptical that Trump has read anything by Amy Chua.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/04/14/daily-202-trump-doesn-t-know-much-about-history-it-s-making-his-on-the-job-training-harder/58f06ba2e9b69b3a72331e84/?utm_term=.8530a6cd483a&wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1
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ignorant republican draft-&-tax dodgers are deplorable Achilleaze Apr 2017 #1
And Kellyanne Conway is worse. As an attorney and GOP insider, Tanuki Apr 2017 #2
Imagine what else he doesn't know. Maybe everything ?? rickford66 Apr 2017 #5
Most knowledgeable observers think that is the case. Hortensis Apr 2017 #30
"At 69 the man literally had no idea what the president could and could not do" Exactly! mpcamb Apr 2017 #31
Sounds great... How to legally determine "misstep," though? Hortensis Apr 2017 #33
Yeah, the FISA court is more complicated than he thought. Eom Blanks Apr 2017 #3
Of course he had no idea how FISA worked -- why would we think otherwise? LuckyLib Apr 2017 #4
Republicans in inner loop really handle his personality & learning disabilities well. Sunlei Apr 2017 #15
There's so much that he doesn't know. SharonAnn Apr 2017 #35
And doesn't listen to the people who do know something. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #37
That man is so ignorant. irisblue Apr 2017 #6
OJT is not how the Presidency is supposed to work maxsolomon Apr 2017 #7
The mans a goldmine for Republican special interests across America. Sunlei Apr 2017 #17
Color me surprised if drumpf has read anything other than Hitler. lark Apr 2017 #8
This on-the-job.training could get us all killed. Snarkoleptic Apr 2017 #9
God, he's stupid. JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #10
What a dumbass! ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #11
Why am I not surprised? UltravioletDingo Apr 2017 #12
What does he not know and when does he not know? Those are the questions. muntrv Apr 2017 #13
free basic college classes for trump, that Republican needs an education. Sunlei Apr 2017 #14
Just another huge scandal that will Trump will get a pass on Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #16
pandering bora13 Apr 2017 #18
Comey went further than that, even. He said a President CANNOT wiretap any American Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #19
Trump doesn't know how a lot of things work Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #20
It has been obvious from the very beginning thatTrump had no idea how permission to wiretap Nitram Apr 2017 #21
Its easier to list the things he knows. Here, I'll start. sdfernando Apr 2017 #23
But he DID promise to regain all of the respect of the world that was lost during the Obama years! maddiemom Apr 2017 #24
ignorant idiot Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #22
That side has used that argument before. calimary Apr 2017 #25
Of course, they always assumed they knew more than Obama did during his presidency. Nitram Apr 2017 #26
Oh yes, jazzcat23 Apr 2017 #29
Trump doesn't know how most things work - He is a fucking idiot. Thor_MN Apr 2017 #27
Clueless Agent Orange doesn't know how anything works for that matter onetexan Apr 2017 #28
He's a meat sack Marthe48 Apr 2017 #32
Doesn't read books? Tony Schwartz told everyone months ago! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #34
So he gave Xinhua a list of twenty book jackets Ilsa Apr 2017 #36
As John Dean pointed out recently in a NYT piece: EarthFirst Apr 2017 #38
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