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51. Trump wants to replace it w/ bilateral 'free trade' deals. Labor rights and environmental standards

Thu Apr 27, 2017, 06:00 AM

Apr 2017

are likely to be even weaker and corporate privilege even stronger in any trade deals that he and the republican congress come up with.

In the immediate post-(repeal and replace) NAFTA world, the WTO would govern our trade with Canada and Mexico - unless Trump tries to go hyper-isolationist and withdraw from the rest of the world altogether and get out of the WTO, the UN and a host of other international treaties and organizations that he and the far-right have wanted to kill for a long time.

Then he can build a Great Wall on the southern border and, if he can scare us enough about the evil Canadians, maybe even get funding for another Great Wall - this one on the northern border.

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White House readies order on withdrawing from NAFTA [View all] Calista241 Apr 2017 OP

Meh, bullshit. It's a tactic. God, I wish Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #1

No knew it would be so safeinOhio Apr 2017 #2

Interesting is it not? Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #3

Cry me a river. Screw them and the whore they rode in on. olegramps Apr 2017 #26

Agree,but, Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #28

NAFTA is a fucking treaty, it had to be ratified by Congress MrScorpio Apr 2017 #4

Does it matter? RhodeIslandOne Apr 2017 #5

Well, it is coming from the guy Lobo27 Apr 2017 #6

Well, he does still have 'Fast Track' in place. (Thanks Obama!) House of Roberts Apr 2017 #10

No he doesn't. That was only for TPP... not NAFTA or any other treaty. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #38

Fast Track lasts six years. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #39

That authorization was for Europe and Asia trade BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #40

Show me a link. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #42

Here BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #43

Best I can do with this iPhone. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #44

Yes for that part of the world. OP is about NAFTA BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #47

Last try. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #54

Yes - for TPP & those 12 countries involved with the negotiations BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #55

I would assume the withdrawal language doesn't mention ratification by the senate. Calista241 Apr 2017 #13

Trump is so desperate to have one jewel accomplishment for the first 100 days Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #18

All treaties contain provisions for termination. former9thward Apr 2017 #19

Thanks for the follow up MrScorpio Apr 2017 #20

Ugh. Delphinus Apr 2017 #36

The notice of withdrawal may start the process but may not end it. pampango Apr 2017 #41

The NAFTA treaty allows for withdrawal sarisataka Apr 2017 #21

The real question is "who is a 'Party'"? Stonepounder Apr 2017 #34

Bingo. roamer65 Apr 2017 #46

Nothing more than a signing ceremony if it happens JDC Apr 2017 #29

Most of what Donald of Orange says he is going to do treestar Apr 2017 #57

USA runs a surplus against Canada. A majority of states have Canada as the #1 trading partner. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #7

He's hoping to crash the economy in his first year so that he can blame Obama. briv1016 Apr 2017 #30

Trump insults the nicest nation in the world, attacks them with lumber tariffs, and now this. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #8

He is an asshole. No doubt. nycbos Apr 2017 #32

More trade flows across 1 bridge btwn Detroit & Windsor than all the trade with Japan. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #9

The Ambassador Bridge MrScorpio Apr 2017 #12

I have been there and seen that BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #48

f**k this country for voting in such an ignoramus still_one Apr 2017 #11

Mexican products often had high % US content JPZenger Apr 2017 #14

A lot of the far left / alt-left hate NAFTA, will they show up on this thread now? snooper2 Apr 2017 #15

They hate it because they lack economic knowledge just like Republicans. LonePirate Apr 2017 #27

Here I am Blackjackdavey Apr 2017 #35

Apparently, Congress can repeal treaties.. that is what I'm finding in my research. secondwind Apr 2017 #16

I'm convinced Trump is going to crash our economy. Oneironaut Apr 2017 #17

He is stuck with it without congressional approval... Historic NY Apr 2017 #22

He cannot EO away a TREATY -- moran obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #23

There goes any more googly-eyes from Ivanka to Justin. ;-) WinkyDink Apr 2017 #24

I wonder how American farmers and ranchers who sell their produce and stock in Canada and Mexico Lanius Apr 2017 #25

I find is ironic that so many people here are suddenly pro NAFTA. nycbos Apr 2017 #31

yeah me too, this place seemed to hate free trade agreements awhile back...lol EX500rider Apr 2017 #33

+1 NobodyHere Apr 2017 #37

Trump wants to replace it w/ bilateral 'free trade' deals. Labor rights and environmental standards pampango Apr 2017 #51

Just in: Trump is NOT going to withdraw from NAFTA for now. - CNN Eugene Apr 2017 #45

I expect it is high time for rengotiation BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #49

Well, there's only one thing to say about that development... MrScorpio Apr 2017 #50

That is a vehicle were he could perhaps negotiate treestar Apr 2017 #58

Trump's WH underpants Apr 2017 #52

obvious Mr Trump, the Republican party just gives you 'busy work'. a box of crayons & coloring book Sunlei Apr 2017 #53

So all he has to say it "it's been very very bad" treestar Apr 2017 #56