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29. Here is a little case study for you to consider

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:04 AM

Jul 2012

In Minnesota back in 1998 the ex-mayor of Brooklyn Park, Jesse Ventura, was running as an independent for Governor. He was running against the DFL and Republican candidates who both had high name recognition in the state, Norm Coleman and Hubert H. Humphrey lll.

Also on that ballot was a constitutional amendment to guarantee the right of the citizens of Minnesota to hunt and fish without interference from the "gun grabbers" and environmentalists, even though nobody was even talking about restricting anything.

Well guess what happened, every gun totin' huntin' and fishin' person in the state registered to vote, some for the 1st time in their lives, and when they turned out to vote they pulled the lever for Ventura too because they knew his name from the rasselin' show.

There is a book on the subject somewhere, I'll post it if I can remember it and find it.

Very risky business for Obama.

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Obama Calls For Government Action On Guns In The Wake Of Colorado Shooting [View all] onehandle Jul 2012 OP

Holy SHIT. Risky, but again... the right thing. NT Grown2Hate Jul 2012 #1

Not all that risky. progressoid Jul 2012 #78

Little history lesson for you Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #92

Not afraid to take a stand. nolabear Jul 2012 #2

Yep savalez Jul 2012 #82

Good on our President RoccoR5955 Jul 2012 #3

I wish you were right, but I have my doubts from the country that voted bush in twice, and voted still_one Jul 2012 #33

voting against feel good gun control or total gun bans is in many people's interest. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #41

Assult weapons are used to kill many people at once. That is their purpose. That some states do still_one Jul 2012 #43

there is no such thing as an "unliscenced dealer" alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #46

As far as I am aware gun shows get away with that crap all the time. /nt still_one Jul 2012 #103

wellll... if you are a Dealer, you have to have an FFL alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #106

If you make a living selling guns you must have a license. hack89 Jul 2012 #110

Have you been to any gun shows? n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #117

There are FFL loopholes large enough to drive a truck through. boppers Jul 2012 #105

so an employee is paid in guns? who cares? alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #107

The right wing will go balistic mountain grammy Jul 2012 #4

That's exactly what's kept a lot of the NRA membership, and conservatives from embracing AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #7

Same thing was said about President Obama's gay marriage stance. Grown2Hate Jul 2012 #9

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out with Romney's history. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #13

Gay marriage doesn't actually affect the wingers Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #98

I think it's a good gamble for the middle tk2kewl Jul 2012 #10

what will their MOA be I wonder? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #14

As will those right here on DU who want to protect guns at all costs AllyCat Jul 2012 #37

Beat me to it - n/t primavera Jul 2012 #88

Bad timing. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #5

yep, there goes the White House invader zim Jul 2012 #11

I don't think it's that certain AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #16

I doubt that. Gun nutters wouldn't be voting for Obama anyway. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #18

clinton himself admits that the AWB crippled his presidency alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #42

I don't think there are very many battle-ground swing voters whose single-issue platform are firearm LanternWaste Jul 2012 #115

you base this on your assumptions, but I wouldn't be so sure that you are correct. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #119

And Democrats lost the House and Senate after the AWB was signed into law. NickB79 Jul 2012 #51

Out of curiosity... primavera Jul 2012 #90

Depends on if you'll accept Bill Clinton's word on it Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #99

Sounds pretty convincing to me primavera Jul 2012 #100

Most NRA member believe in some for of gun control. intheflow Jul 2012 #71

most NRA believe in gun safety... alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #91

nope... that talking point was never true fascisthunter Jul 2012 #80

How much more anti-Obama can the NRA be? They "scored" ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #12

All the leadership of the NRA needs is a damn soundbite. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #15

Obama did not give them that soundbyte. The N.O. speech ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #26

Great timing. Obama can always show that Rmoney banned assault rifles. nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #20

You have to pick you battlegrounds and your time. pa28 Jul 2012 #22

My thoughts exactly Populist_Prole Jul 2012 #25

gun "enthusiasts" :cough:"nuts":cough: hated Obama already...nt Evasporque Jul 2012 #70

+1 sarcasmo Jul 2012 #95

let Rmoney explain why everyone should have assault rifles & be able to buy 6000 rounds of ammo on wordpix Jul 2012 #104

That was gutsy and perhaps a little risky nevergiveup Jul 2012 #6

. tk2kewl Jul 2012 #8

Video clip on the link below Tx4obama Jul 2012 #17

It's a well-crafted speech, and from an RKBA perspective I have no objection to it petronius Jul 2012 #19

Exactly. ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #27

States are submitting mental health records to the NICS... -..__... Jul 2012 #69

Good for him. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #21

I wish I owned a gun store...I see an up turn in sales n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #23

Of course you do you precious little flower.... DainBramaged Jul 2012 #61

Just a lot of talk. I seriously doubt anything is going to happen. JoeInNy Jul 2012 #24

which would once against decimate any chance of us pushing a democratic agenda alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #44

So, what kind of activism do you do for hunger, homelessness, or tax policy? Kolesar Jul 2012 #57

None, except hoping against hope that poor people can't afford guns Scootaloo Jul 2012 #76

uh, probably more than you. but that is irrelevant and not the topic of discussion. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #93

Unless he has a plan to overturn Heller and Miller its just talk davepc Jul 2012 #28

Here is a little case study for you to consider TouchOfGray Jul 2012 #29

Shows fortitude. Shows initiative. Shows Presidentiality. truthisfreedom Jul 2012 #30

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #31

well gee, I guess the pot vote will go to the repukes, and I know he had the gun vote wrapped up still_one Jul 2012 #36

Although I applaud him for speaking out.. humbled_opinion Jul 2012 #32

good point and something i didnt even think about. loli phabay Jul 2012 #35

anyone who know anything about rifles knows that the AK-47 is a much more durable weapon than the still_one Jul 2012 #38

So he's going to go on record JoeyT Jul 2012 #34

Actually I think it is about time that people realize what the issues really are. Woman and civil still_one Jul 2012 #39

The Most Important Ideological Election since 1932 bucolic_frolic Jul 2012 #58

I agree with you. /nt still_one Jul 2012 #102

This is the same thing as Pelosi saying it would be �really important� to take on med. marijuana... Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #40

"AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers"....or wizards.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #45

I'm glad I bought my AR-15 when I did. Dr_Scholl Jul 2012 #47

"I'm glad I bought my AR-15 when I did" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #48

no the ak is for orcs, the ar is for goblins and hobbits. loli phabay Jul 2012 #53

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #56

A .223 round will never take down a two-headed ogre. Dash87 Jul 2012 #74

I bought mine when it became clear that the state of California was going to pass it's own "AW" ban slackmaster Jul 2012 #67

Do you get hard just thinking about it? Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2012 #114

Oh yeah. Dr_Scholl Jul 2012 #123

Just when AK47s were consistently under $400.... n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #130

A warning from the 1990's when Gun Rights groups where MUCH WEAKER.... virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #49

Here that? It's the sound of the GOP collectively cumming in their pants NickB79 Jul 2012 #50

Our obsessive focus on the fact that Holmes had an assault rifle xxenderwigginxx Jul 2012 #52

Risky but needed to be said. DCBob Jul 2012 #54

Good for him and nothing to worry about politically... polichick Jul 2012 #55

The right will freak out SmittynMo Jul 2012 #59

Graded Gun Licenses. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #60

Thanks JoePhilly. Makes a lot of sense. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #65

How about we do that for voting? Missycim Jul 2012 #68

Which... beevul Jul 2012 #126

BS. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #127

Fundamental understanding of whats currently allowed is important. beevul Jul 2012 #131

Ok, so the election is over now Ter Jul 2012 #62

Right, now we know gun owners are simply sheep. DainBramaged Jul 2012 #66

Gee, I wonder why there was a rush on guns this past week 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #63

Open up the NICS background check system to non-federal firearms licensees slackmaster Jul 2012 #64

What? I make two practical suggestions that few gun owners disagree with, and NOBODY responds? slackmaster Jul 2012 #72

Please stop trying to shut down the discussion with your rational and petronius Jul 2012 #81

You big bully!!1!11!!! n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #85

You just nailed my vote MR. PRESIDENT CountAllVotes Jul 2012 #73

I don't think this will hurt him with the GOP PAC known as the NRA anyway Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #75

+ 1 Bazillion! Shadowflash Jul 2012 #77

good! Sanity! fascisthunter Jul 2012 #79

I don't see a CALL for anything. savalez Jul 2012 #83

This is crazy. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #84

No, no, NO!!!! PavePusher Jul 2012 #86

Nobody. Fucking. Cares. About. Your. Parsing. Of. Minutia. onehandle Jul 2012 #87

You go ahead and keep believing that. It's unfortunate you don't grasp the President's nuance. slackmaster Jul 2012 #89

He can't grasp it, because it is over his head. virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #109

thank you onehandle fascisthunter Jul 2012 #96

Talk to the OP about it. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #101

Um, this is a pretty huge fucking bit of "minutia" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #112

So, you endorse ignorance? PavePusher Jul 2012 #118

onehandle is PROUD of his ignorance slackmaster Jul 2012 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Jul 2012 #120

Nice sock puppet post! slackmaster Jul 2012 #128

Yes, your post suggests you are crazy fascisthunter Jul 2012 #97

It could be a way of sounding like he's making a point 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #111

I , Walter Mit Romney, solemnly swear that I will Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #94

just what do you think he's messing with? wordpix Jul 2012 #108

He's messing with a huge voting block of gun owners Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #116

the issue is the nation is awash in guns wordpix Jul 2012 #121

At the risk of sounding like a total redneck (which I was) Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #122

Good talk, now help make it happen. Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2012 #113

Not really.. virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #124

wow..someone used an ak47 in a crime? backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #125