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In reply to the discussion: FBI investigating Jane Sanders for alleged bank fraud: report [View all]Ninsianna
(1,356 posts)I quite agree, a small set of DUers has indeed joined up with some right wingers, not just DUers, we've seen this all over twitter and Facebook and other social media. They really did and continue to work hard against anyone seeking to defeat Trump, they've been doing so for years now. But you seem confused, it's not Bernie they hate, quite the opposite actually, they attack the Democrats, the candidate (even now), journalists who report stories about election hacking, Russia connections, anyone pointing out how propaganda outlets like RT, fake sites pretending to push Bernie, but disseminate fake news etc. are still at play seeking to divide the most effective anti-Trump critics, the Democrats. They're single minded in the divisive actions, they post inflammatory post on sites like DU, Raw Story, TPM, etc. with rude attacks, conspiracy theories, snarky memes while aggressively (both passive and otherwise) being as abrasive as possible.
The purpose seems clear, their hate of the Democrats is so deep and so virulent that they cannot stand to unite even in the face of Trump. Or they're just very aware that this toxic projection will allow Trump to continue to dismantle the country. Some are true believers who sincerely wished to "burn it all down", in the same vein as Bannon wishes to "dismantle" the government. Some are doing so with other motives. The end result is the same, that which they accuse others of, they're guilty of themselves. Odd, isn't it? How the people attacking Trump's adversaries are using his own tactics?
The french are indeed correct and we saw the evidence of this in the glee with which right wing memes and talking points were deployed against the candidate, Bernie never experienced any such attack, from anyone. His followers however used them.
People seem to be awfully upset that there is in an investigation here, anyone who is sentient and educated on this matter can kind of see the desperate spin in trying to blame random right wingers who started in AFTER the DOJ started investigating the issue.
It's a bit ignorant of the timeline to pretend that these guys somehow got Obama's DOJ to investigate a year before they became aware of it because they had some inkling that a year later Bernie might become nationally popular. It just doesn't pass the smell test. Sentient people understand the continuity of the timeline.
I quite agree the primary is over, and those who keep engaging in these knee jerk responses really should take Elsa's advice and not make EVERY SINGLE THING about refighting the primary. That would require letting go of the delusions that anyone reacting to what's happening in the news with regard to Sanders is "bernie hate" if it somehow isn't fawning or somersaulting in delighted acrobatics or swooning in Beiber like adulation.
This is a legitimate news story, and reacting to what he's saying in real time is also legitimate, people need to follow Elsa's advice and stop pretending that any and all things not praising Bernie to the skies are "hate". Also, we have a great many people who are actually doing the effective criticism of Trump. Bernie's comments don't make him the most effective critic of Trump, he seems to vacillate all over the place between praise and some mild criticism, people uniting against Trump's critics seem from observation to be the ones insisting that Bernie is the end all and the be all. There is a contingent here on DU who seem to attack Trump's critics, all the ones I mentioned above, while also being very upset at anyone who doesn't see Bernie as the savior against Trump, with his own quotes in context being seen as "attacks" on Bernie and "proof of Bernie hate".
That's not how reality works, and it would be very nice if people could let this go and open their eyes to what is going on, but it seems that accuracy is not the goal of the people engaging in these cattywampus attacks on those some feel are attacking their hero.
We don't have the time for this divisiveness, deal with the facts and stop misattributing motives and ignoring what's actually going on. The people doing this are not subtle, nor as clever as they think. The haters are pretty clear in their attacks on Trump's critics, and it's clear who they hate, and it's not Bernie.