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55. You think the NCAA only deals with recruiting violations?

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:26 AM

Jul 2012

Did you even hear the speech that NCAA Pres. Emmerich made? He laid out quite clearly how this is an NCAA matter. The FOOTBALL PROGRAM committed gross ethical violations in this case. The NCAA bylaws - which Penn State agreed to as a member of the NCAA - very clearly state that member institutions have certain ethical and moral responsibilities. It's pretty obvious that in this case, there was an ethical and moral breakdown of unprecedented proportions.

As for as the student-athletes - THEY ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED. Nobody is having their scholarship revoked. In fact - the NCAA has given them permission to transfer to any school they desire - or they can stay at Penn State on full scholarship. So please tell me, how exactly is this punishing the student athlete?

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Penn State alumni group critical of NCAA sanctions, Freeh Report [View all] OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 OP

Boo-hoo-fucking-hoo Hugabear Jul 2012 #1

Because they figure that's an acceptable cost to protect their football program. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #4

+1,000 freshwest Jul 2012 #5

Just a note -- this isn't an official Penn State alumni group. pnwmom Jul 2012 #27

The school is darn lucky the NCAA did not shut down the whole football program, and good riddance. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #30

yes rickford66 Aug 2012 #84

wait until they see that PSU insurers are rejecting claims Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #2

Fuck 'em. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #3

Fuck 'em and feed 'em fish heads n/t MicaelS Jul 2012 #9

I don't care in the slightest about the Penn State alumni group. Atman Jul 2012 #6

I saw krhines Jul 2012 #7

Oh waaaa, waaa, waaaa,,, benld74 Jul 2012 #8

The Freeh report WAS incomplete and insufficient tularetom Jul 2012 #10

Seriously, someone needs to investigate Tom Corbett LynneSin Jul 2012 #19

It punishes the innocent. laureloak Jul 2012 #11

It punishes the institution, which goddamn well deserves it. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #16

it punishes the athletes that had NOTHING To do with it. nt msongs Jul 2012 #17

Funny, it looks to me like it actively encourages the athletes to leave without penalty. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #21

Are you referring to ALL the athletes or just football. Pauldg47 Jul 2012 #23

you can hope in one hand and shit in the other frylock Jul 2012 #40

You're absolutely right!!! Pauldg47 Jul 2012 #22

R U joking? The athletes were using those same showers while Sandusky was "horseplaying" xtraxritical Jul 2012 #31

the athletes are free to attend another university.. frylock Jul 2012 #39

are the students going to prison? frylock Aug 2012 #78

Your right !!!! Pauldg47 Jul 2012 #20

The NCAA is getting too powerful? Surely you jest. Hugabear Jul 2012 #26

Um, where are you going with this..... Pauldg47 Jul 2012 #50

You think the NCAA only deals with recruiting violations? Hugabear Jul 2012 #55

It isn't -- that's just the #1 talking point obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #58

Look; I don't care what he said. It is not an NCAA matter! First & foremost it's criminal. Pauldg47 Jul 2012 #71

In other words, just because YOU say it isn't Hugabear Jul 2012 #72

Sorry, NCAA did not do enough. Penn State deserved a ban. peacebird Jul 2012 #69

The NCAA has jurisdiction over its members Hugabear Jul 2012 #25

Yup. Penn State is free to leave the NCAA any time it wants. SomeGuyInEagan Jul 2012 #70

how so? frylock Jul 2012 #38

Please explain how this "punishes" the innocent Hugabear Jul 2012 #41

The INNOCENT in all this Zoeisright Jul 2012 #65

Innocent people are always hurt when punishment is imposed... GodlessBiker Aug 2012 #76

They got a watchdog group making sure little kids don't get raped? Iggo Jul 2012 #12

they are lucky they still have a football program so..... madrchsod Jul 2012 #13

+1000 krhines Jul 2012 #14

I'm critical of them too Flatpicker Jul 2012 #15

They should be damn lucky they weren't given the 'death penalty' LynneSin Jul 2012 #18

I HAVE A REQUEST FOR ANY DUers WHO ARE PENN STATEers OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #24

I'm not a Penn Stater -- just pointing out that the group in the OP doesn't represent pnwmom Jul 2012 #28

The child rape was institutionalized by those in charge turning a blind eye. AtomicKitten Jul 2012 #29

That's right!!! Pauldg47 Jul 2012 #54

Let's be clear - we're talking about CHILD RAPE - not just some run-of-the-mill shenanigans Hugabear Jul 2012 #32

If Pen State is being azmesa207 Jul 2012 #34

I didn't realize the Catholic church was overseen by the NCAA exboyfil Jul 2012 #36

They are being punished. Many, many people like me have left in droves and the RCC isn't getting IndyJones Jul 2012 #48

Link to the NCAA being the Church's sanctioning organization? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #59

Damn the NCAA -- now it is even less likely that Penn State and Notre Dame SDjack Jul 2012 #33

I guess Flatpicker Jul 2012 #35

Just trying to be realistic. SDjack Jul 2012 #37

Pity any rape victim ... radicalliberal Jul 2012 #42

between this and the terrorist complaining about having to shave his beard arely staircase Jul 2012 #43

Too. Damn. Bad. aquart Jul 2012 #44

OVERVIEW: http://www.protect.org/emergency/1544 & http://protect.org/tech proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #45

FYI proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #46

Would have rather seen a shut down modrepub Jul 2012 #47

This may turn out to be a moot point as soon as the lawsuits begin. Penn State may have to sell.... Raster Jul 2012 #49

They are the state. They have pretty deep pockets OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #57

Agreed. However, the monster sandusky had free reign FOR YEARS... Raster Jul 2012 #61

Fuck that they should have had a gopiscrap Jul 2012 #51

Penn State will still get to play football this year bluestateguy Jul 2012 #52

Bunch of fucking whiners. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #53

Just goes to prove that the program trumps all legal, moral and ethical justifications Earth_First Jul 2012 #56

Apparently covering up a massive child rape scandal for years 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #60

What's the Penn State alumni watchdog group's perspective on this development? proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #62

WTF? OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #63

WAPO: "Graham Spanier�s gig as a federal worker is a mystery" proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #68

Info reported in April and July NOT picked up by national media. No idea why. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #67

Penn State alumni group can kiss my ass. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #64

College sport, any sport, has been corrupted by too much money. There should be a cap Monk06 Jul 2012 #66

Zooming out from the Penn State case to related news on today's House vote. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #73

RELATED THREAD: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014185205 proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #74

House passes Child Protection Act 2012/"Child abuse is a bipartisan issue. Both parties ignore it." proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #75

CBS: "A source has been told... child pornography was found in at least 1 of Sandusky's computers." proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #80

Repulsive RainDog Aug 2012 #77

If they'd expressed half this outrage at the initial coverup as they are over the punishment 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #79

I find it strange JonLP24 Aug 2012 #81

Ex-Penn State president Graham Spanier says it was his choice to resign, not the board of trustees proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #82

Like they would have let him stay jsr Aug 2012 #83