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LiberalLovinLug

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18. Thanks for clarifying
Sat May 20, 2017, 04:37 PM
May 2017

I still would still say your assessment that they are one and the same is a bit warped.
What I gather you mean is that they are 'one and the same' only so far as their levels of puritanism, both so beholden to their own particular set of demands and will not budge from them that it is detrimental to gaining any traction both for power or for followers.

But your definition of 'far left' is odd. Sarandon agrees with everything Sanders had proposed, and you just told me that to consider Sanders as 'far left' is laughable. So that makes no logical sense. And Stein was willing to vacate her position in order for Bernie to run in her place as head of the Green party, so if she had no problems with Sanders either, I fail to see how her positions are so radically 'far left' either. Mostly they share Bernie's and Warren's and others belief that we must get corporate money, and dark foreign money, out of politics. And fight for benefits that every other capitalist based, democratic country has for their citizens. Things like universal healthcare, maternity leave, etc..Not really communists in my books.

How I perceive the difference is that their supporters believe in almost all the same issues as Democrat voters, but that even the Democrats are too enmeshed within a corrupt system and too ensconced with their own corporate partners to get any real progress done. That they have given up on the good cop/bad cop Dems/Reps, both mostly working for the same 1% in their eyes, and they have been frustrated to the point of abandoning the idea of trying to change the system from within the Democratic party.

It has nothing to do with being too far left.

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Lie to him then nab the asshole- Would love to see him questioned by the Senate snooper2 May 2017 #1
The authoritarianism is so charming. JackRiddler May 2017 #28
I'm less enthused about security state than some on DU cloudythescribbler May 2017 #2
So let me get his straight... Dopers_Greed May 2017 #3
another MSM/powers-that-be encouraged meme of "rightwing" Wikileaks efforts cloudythescribbler May 2017 #7
Bullshit.. wikileaks and assange are rw assholes.. Cha May 2017 #17
And he's a rapist piece of shit ismnotwasm May 2017 #29
Exactly, ism.. I was thinking about that after Cha May 2017 #30
I'm ambivalent toward Assange and Wikileaks sandensea May 2017 #35
Assange's "important work" Dr Hobbitstein May 2017 #4
scapegoating of Wikileaks for DT presidency is the kind of thinking ... cloudythescribbler May 2017 #5
Supporting assholes like Julian Assange is why the far left and the far right are the same. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2017 #6
equating the "far left" and the right is the kind of thinking ... cloudythescribbler May 2017 #8
Both the far right and far left love them some Jillian Assange and Russia. Dr Hobbitstein May 2017 #10
What is your definition of "far left" and "far right" that they can be the same thing? LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #13
The far left does not consist of any elected Democratic figures. Dr Hobbitstein May 2017 #16
Thanks for clarifying LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #18
Sarandon endorsed Jill Stein. Dr Hobbitstein May 2017 #19
You seem to be confusing personality with platform. LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #23
Sarandon is a flake who preferred Trump "burning it all down" to Hillary.... bettyellen May 2017 #27
You exagerate LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #31
Bullshit. She preferred Trump over Hillary. Such an unhinged woman. bettyellen May 2017 #32
That is a very 'with us or against us' view LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #37
Those that fell for the Russian propaganda need to wake the fuck up, period! bettyellen May 2017 #38
The far left does not consist of any elected Democratic figures. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #26
Assange is a Russian troll...and helps no one but those the Russians like Demsrule86 May 2017 #9
detail in Assange-trashing narrative new to me -- what linx him to "France Leak"? cloudythescribbler May 2017 #11
google is your friend...Assange is an asshat Russian troll. Demsrule86 May 2017 #14
The original Wikileakers who were honest left a while ago, disgusted by Assaange's power plays.... bettyellen May 2017 #39
Don't you hate houseguests who hang around forever? brooklynite May 2017 #12
LOL! True dat DeminPennswoods May 2017 #36
He must be getting tired of all of that ceviche Jose Garcia May 2017 #15
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I have little sympathy for his pasty ass n/t TexasBushwhacker May 2017 #25
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I'm guessing the Russians could park a car under his balcony... brooklynite May 2017 #24
I guess you could say he's in a prison... GReedDiamond May 2017 #33
Stay in the embassy and rot orangecrush May 2017 #34
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