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16. In the UK you can register as a heroin addict and go get clean needles & Rx Dope in big cities

Thu May 25, 2017, 09:54 AM

May 2017

No fentanyl, no 'cut/unknown additives', no disease-spreading via dirty needles, 100% 'known' dosage level ... there's doctors and nurses ... they gauge how much you've been taking so as to not let you OD, but if you did, they're there with naloxone ...

They also allow you to get a daily dose of methadone at most pharmacies, part of the National Health, free or damn near. No dehumanizing private, for-profit 'methadone clinic' to go stand in line at. I suspect if they've not yet, they'll have buprenorphine aka Suboxone available this way soon as well I'd bet. A much better solution than methadone ... though not as easy to transition to in the short term.

It's time for the US to get 'real' about this shit, start really helping people. And we need to do it for CHEAP, because addicts don't have money, typically. Opioids ARE cheap as hell at manufacturing level, so it should be very possible.

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Drug Counselors Overdose at Addiction Facility [View all] Stuart G May 2017 OP

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa ProfessorGAC May 2017 #1

Exactly my thought. Why not say Heroin Overdose? Why imply it was a prescription opioid? nt keopeli May 2017 #2

Why? CountAllVotes May 2017 #3

Because it's a pointless distinction to make ... it says opioids repeatedly ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #7

While you are correct about symantics, the vast majority of people do not consider Heroin an opiate. keopeli May 2017 #17

When I think of opioids, I think of: LeftInTX May 2017 #31

Fentynal is synthetic I think Mosby May 2017 #41

Sadly I can tell you off the top of my head ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #51

What about tramadol? Mosby May 2017 #52

Absolutely correct SonofDonald May 2017 #36

Oh, don't be silly... They were probably white. kydo May 2017 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #38

probably because it started with prescription pain killers. also, opioid is commonly used for La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #4

this Zoonart May 2017 #8

Yeah, I Said That ProfessorGAC May 2017 #20

Hogan RobinA May 2017 #48

People shoot up oxycodone, absolutely ... and I doubt they've had time to analyze the baggies ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #13

Yes, Yes, & Yes ProfessorGAC May 2017 #22

Yup, agree right back at ya ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #30

There is no real heroin left on the west coast, it's all fentanyl based imitations Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2017 #33

No, it's the same thing: an opiod, and that's how junkies start obamanut2012 May 2017 #42

Philly is the media market for Chester County and this has been a top story here BumRushDaShow May 2017 #5

Wow that's amazing. I grew up there MGKrebs May 2017 #9

Chester County was mostly rural and then the developments came BumRushDaShow May 2017 #11

I've known a good number of users and addicts ... and couple who've OD'd and died ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #25

The other sad problem is BumRushDaShow May 2017 #29

Oh, I know all about that part too, believe me ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #32

Yup yup and yup. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #37

hmm, website is offline- Wonder if this is one of the fundie places snooper2 May 2017 #6

I'm sorry, what? woundedkarma May 2017 #10

Heroin laced with fentanyl.........your final thrill. Historic NY May 2017 #12

And still, TrumperCare would slash badly needed treatment funding flibbitygiblets May 2017 #14

Oh great. Another story to hype so that people in pain can't get their meds. Coventina May 2017 #15

Naw sounds like it's heroin, addicts, and probably not kids, whereas the stories they hype mr_lebowski May 2017 #18

Yeah, but notice how the OD is described as "opioids" not "heroin". Coventina May 2017 #21

I explained this upthread ... 'opioids' is perfectly accurate for describing heroin ... mr_lebowski May 2017 #28

Because heroin is properly an accurately described as an opioid obamanut2012 May 2017 #43

In the UK you can register as a heroin addict and go get clean needles & Rx Dope in big cities mr_lebowski May 2017 #16

Thank you! get the red out May 2017 #27

Ironic that the general public is only concerned about addiction epidemics now that it affects white people Dopers_Greed May 2017 #19

Boy, You Said It! ProfessorGAC May 2017 #23

not ironic, just a reflection of the reality that white lives matter more than black lives La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #24

As long as the morality police strangle evidence-based actions such as harm-reduction through WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #26

Sad to say, this story has misinformation Progressive_not_dem May 2017 #34

Well, Part Of The Problem RobinA May 2017 #49

I found this site on drug addiction. Stuart G May 2017 #39

It's time we stopped using addiction treatments that aren't evidence based. LeftyMom May 2017 #40

Again, check for facts Progressive_not_dem May 2017 #44

1. I don't know who you are and you have two posts. Do you have some evidence you can LeftyMom May 2017 #45

Your post says Progressive_not_dem May 2017 #46

So no evidence? Okay thanks. LeftyMom May 2017 #47

I Have No Idea RobinA May 2017 #50