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In reply to the discussion: Democrats Become Target of Occupy Protests [View all]certainot
(9,090 posts)you're thinking and talking in a talk radio vacuum.
all the left has to do is recognize the fact that what's been kicking their ass for the last 20 years isn't the blue dogs, which are a symptom of the problem, but talk radio. then they'd realize they're getting out messaged and outframed by the GOP because they get a free speech free ride- there is NO organized opposition. the iraq war protests i went to and got tear gassed at should have included the local limbaugh megastations, which were doing the heavy lifting selling those lies and got away with it because they were unchallenged. they are the reason a decorated war veteran became an elitist flip flopper, and a silver spooned failure and national guard deserter became commander in chief. palin was chosen for limbaugh, to get him on board with mccain. this whole primary idiot field is acceptable because the talk radio gods excluded the moderates years ago. these things were not some cyclic shift to the right. wall st deregulation, media deregulation, clarence thomas, scalia, single payer defeat are all trophies on the talk radio trophy room wall. there is no bigger national PC cop and censor-by-threat than limbaugh.
some of it's changed since rove lost control of it and the kochs horned in but the think tanks can still use it to message over just about anything the left does.
the same applies to OWS protests. there is no consequence for the sponsors of those radio stations and universities that broadcast sports on those stations that let limbaugh and hannity call OWS protestors maggot infested scum all day and deny global warming the rest of the time. to 50 mil a week. on stations licensed to operate in the public interest. protected by call screeners and prompted and reinforced by paid think tank callers. those local and national blowhards were yelling at the govs and mayors and cops and chiefs they needed to clean up the OWS scum, and exhorting their listeners to let them know. it makes a big difference.
nothing has moved the center or allowed the corporate media to move the perception of the center more to the right than having those blowhards on every corner and stump in the country screaming the same think tank generated BS all day long as if they represent the center or the majority and get away with it because no one gets in their face. print and TV omits but the radio monopoly can create. internet is diffuse while RW radio is focused and repetitive. no other medium can do that unchallenged coordinated repetition, deciding what is and what isn't acceptable, turning molehills into mountains in a day. the think tanks monitor the national conversation and if obama or wellstone etc are getting traction they develop a response and feed it to team limbaugh. OWS worked because it was one of the few political 'ops' that was louder than RW talk radio- but the radio keeps going all day every day.
and no one gets in the radio gods faces because the left thinks the fact they reach 50 mil a week is either irrelevant, they don't reach 50 mil a week, or the internet kicks their ass, or eventually all those pickups will have free high speed and global warming can wait, or they just have no clue, or are more interested in music. whatever.
the teabaggers are a product of 20 years of talk radio - all the koch bros did was give them bus passes. the fact that the left and the media generally have no idea that teabaggers are the talk radio base that were lured out of the limbaugh closet with koch funded bus passes is a big reason they're so successful. limbaugh spent months assuring them defaulting on the debt would present advantages for them, to force obama to cut govt. etc. that's likely the single most important reason we almost defaulted. OWS was necessary because democracy isn't working. democracy is designed to fix money and media problems but the left has allowed the right, with talk radio being the most important mechanism, to short circuit the normal feedback mechanisms that a democracy depends on. until the radio screamers are challenged getting money out of politics and demonopolizing media are practically impossible.
here's another way to look at it - the main talk radio gods are paid liars working 24/7 for the 1% on public airwaves. they have an effect on every national discussion. imagine if they just started telling the truth. the difference in our democracy would be amazing- advocating for clean energy for instance, instead of the oil companies. but there is no consequence for lying.
as far as doing something about it- besides local sponsor shaming, and protesting, it is possible that the RW monopoly couldn't survive without university sports (15 of 16 NCAA bball finalists in 2011 use limbaugh stations.). and no uni has any excuse for staying with limbaugh hannity savage stations. as soon as a few made that move their local sponsors would start peeling away and it would draw attention to the issue.