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133. Good points. We think of who might be harmed in the quest for the perfect zinger.

Sat Jun 3, 2017, 02:40 PM

Jun 2017

This is not an exact science, but we make an effort to do the right thing.... and to consider the ramifications of lending our approval to (or even just ignoring) actions and words that are at odds with our values and ideals.

Or we could be like the other side and aggressively ignore the violation of every value we have claimed to hold dear (as the the evangelicals have done with 45, Limbaugh, etc.) just because the guy doing the violating is sorta on "our side."

Maher could at least have bleeped the word from the later broadcast. I think we have all heard "house nigger," and that could have just slipped out, but it would have been funnier to say "house negro," anyway, since it's an historical reference and "negro" sounds archaic. (Though, on this thread I just learned those slaves tended to be the products of the white masters' rapes of slave women, so not really "funny" at all.) At any rate, why not bleep it from the later airing if it just slipped out?

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Bill Maher Uses Racial Slur on Real Time [View all] Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 OP

I Watched the Show Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #1

For reasons of great historical importance, white people cannot use the n-word. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #2

It would be better if no one used it, and just consign it to the OnDoutside Jun 2017 #5

It's not up to white America to dictate what black Americans do with the n-word. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #7

You're arguing a different point. Black America should have OnDoutside Jun 2017 #12

by white people? Blacks are going to tell them not to use it and then they wont? lunasun Jun 2017 #141

Don't they already tell them ? OnDoutside Jun 2017 #151

I honestly don't even listen to most of today's comics Plucketeer Jun 2017 #89

Wrong. Blacks learned to 'own' the 'n' word; women, 'cunt' duhneece Jun 2017 #22

funny story. Someone needs to figure out an equally patronizing come back to the N word yurbud Jun 2017 #137

never going to happen rtracey Jun 2017 #117

Okay, I'll say it Roy Rolling Jun 2017 #8

People have the right to be offended, just as you have the right to not be offended. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #9

I said I was offended, the use is offensive in today's culture Roy Rolling Jun 2017 #13

Well said. nt canetoad Jun 2017 #32

Listen to which members of the group? treestar Jun 2017 #139

100% agree with you, Roy. OnDoutside Jun 2017 #14

The N-word... TheDebbieDee Jun 2017 #49

Totally agree.. duhneece Jun 2017 #21

Unfortunately, the use of this word by AAs perpetuates it. Chemisse Jun 2017 #40

I would not go that far. lancelyons Jun 2017 #63

I've heard a lot of white people use it in ways that weren't derogatory. Igel Jun 2017 #84

That may be the way things are, but frankly no one should use the n-word, or other ethnic or still_one Jun 2017 #93

Then maybe it should never be used. bitterross Jun 2017 #100

I don't entirely agree. cab67 Jun 2017 #113

I agree with your comments totally bitterross Jun 2017 #125

Exactly! I also watched. Duppers Jun 2017 #10

Or..... Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #17

Bill's half jewish and he hates all religion MattP Jun 2017 #54

I watched the segment. It's NOT ok for white people to make a joke pnwmom Jun 2017 #24

At least not until reparations have been made and paid for all the stolen KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #65

Thank you! Paka Jun 2017 #37

A Racial Slur LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #69

The question is: Who replaces him? christx30 Jun 2017 #80

"conservative comedian"? Ligyron Jun 2017 #82

That's not our issue... LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #154

2018 and 2020 is everyone's issue. christx30 Jun 2017 #156

Maher is a Comedian..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #157

There's no excuse for it. Especially not Trumps "just joking" nonsense. bettyellen Jun 2017 #90

And yet, when he called a gay man a "faggot"... Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #3

I saw some anger when it happened but no mainstream coverage. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #6

"This latest one is simply going to be his most public." Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #15

Not from me. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #28

I didn't hear about this..... LeftInTX Jun 2017 #79

When you use it in private convo, it can slip out other times Pluvious Jun 2017 #106

They're different levels of taboo. Igel Jun 2017 #86

I just KNEW that word was going to blow up !!! I suspect OnDoutside Jun 2017 #4

My eyebrows went up when he said that yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #11

Hearing that it seems he did use the "a" at the end instead of the "er" 7962 Jun 2017 #60

??? padah513 Jun 2017 #72

No, in another article the distinction was made a big deal. I Shouldve mentioned that. 7962 Jun 2017 #98

That's often a meaningless distinction. Igel Jun 2017 #92

Bill is... Mike Nelson Jun 2017 #16

Bill Maher dates black women, almost exclusively. Duppers Jun 2017 #19

Wooooow. A new take on "I have a lot of black friends." Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #20

There can be a difference between fetishism and equality in romantic interests. politicat Jun 2017 #85

Which may be the cause of treestar Jun 2017 #140

He's a white guy making a joke about slavery. Which means, if he isn't a racist, pnwmom Jun 2017 #25

+Infinity - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #66

You are truly a voice of reason in an ocean of insanity. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #147

Thank you, Gravitycollapse. And you are, too. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #148

And this reaction on our side is why ... we lose. We eat our own. But "they" will NEVER do so ... mr_lebowski Jun 2017 #18

Yup - The self-defeating, over-sensitive, bandwagon Twitter dog-pilers Oneironaut Jun 2017 #47

ABSOLUTELY!! cisco man Jun 2017 #124

Thank you for one of the few posts on this thread that doesn't make me cringe. scarletwoman Jun 2017 #149

IT'S A FUCKING JOKE BY A COMEDIAN, FOR FUCKS SAKE! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #23

Cornel West could make that joke without apology. Bill Maher needs to apologize pnwmom Jun 2017 #27

What do we call it when we tell people what they can and cannot say? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #29

What do we call it when we tell people they can't CRITICIZE pnwmom Jun 2017 #122

I have an opinion. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #127

Like this from 2015? stopbush Jun 2017 #94

That was offensive because he was targeting a particular person pnwmom Jun 2017 #123

Malcolm X did not use the N-word in that diatribe oberliner Jun 2017 #33

This is the 21st century. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #36

I'm not sure I understand how that is relevant oberliner Jun 2017 #41

We actually have comedians who apologize after every joke! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #44

And it was totally out of nowhere. Race wasnt even being discussed. 7962 Jun 2017 #45

Sounds like he may have misunderstood a comment as racist Bradical79 Jun 2017 #59

You can hear the Sen trying to say "thats what we do.." as Maher keeps talking 7962 Jun 2017 #61

With "a" version tends to show up more in friendly situations Bradical79 Jun 2017 #64

the Tweetstorm was large & fast wasnt it? nt 7962 Jun 2017 #99

Not quite, here's the real Malcolm X video IronLionZion Jun 2017 #38

Since we're parsing words and ignoring context... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #43

Does using the n-word make it sharp and literate? oberliner Jun 2017 #50

If you don't 'get it' that's fine. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #55

"I got it and that's all that matters". That's some extremely selfish talk. bettyellen Jun 2017 #97

It's subjective. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #104

It's pretty much the definition of selfish, so yeah. And spare me the Liberatarian accusations bettyellen Jun 2017 #111

You are welcome to your opinion. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #120

I'm not asking to shut down his program oberliner Jun 2017 #128

I don't require him to apologize. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #132

He just apologized oberliner Jun 2017 #134

Hey - so did Kathy Griffin! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #135

Kathy Griffiin??? cisco man Jun 2017 #155

Ben Carson HOUSE NEGRO njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #53

Well, that added a lot to the conversation. nt 7962 Jun 2017 #107

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #52

Oh just shocking, shocking I tell you. People need to get a grip. YOHABLO Jun 2017 #26

George Carlin is still the standard bearer about why the left keeps screwing this up Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #30

+1000 LAGC Jun 2017 #75

Here we go... Another issue pushed by Republican influenced press to incite Liberal infighting. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #31

Thank you canetoad Jun 2017 #34

Works? Like a bell to Pavlov's dog. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #39

Too true. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2017 #150

Maher struggled for a long time..... dawnie51 Jun 2017 #35

You're not allowed to provide context! :D Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #42

A ton of people in Nebraska "work in the fields". not really a shocking statement 7962 Jun 2017 #46

Yeah, there's no way a Republican would use any sort of racial code wording. Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #70

In this case, thats really pushing to find something that just isnt there. 7962 Jun 2017 #101

+1. He spontaneously went for the joke using a historical reference term. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #56

Thank you! SCVDem Jun 2017 #77

I agree, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2017 #130

Oh, hahaha. I wonder if Kathy Griffin sees the humor in Maher's remark. Paladin Jun 2017 #48

Just like I cut Griffin slack, I also cut Maher even more slack. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #51

Disappointed not shocked mikeyDE Jun 2017 #57

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #58

Sigh indeed... LakeArenal Jun 2017 #81

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #88

Are you trying to be divisive? What's with this "latte left"? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #109

I caught that, too. Strange term to use for a newbie. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #142

Could have ridiculed GOPer Ahole without that. Still like Maher, but that was a bad moment. Hoyt Jun 2017 #62

He is a smarmy little shit. demmiblue Jun 2017 #67

OhNoSheTwitnt sums up my feelings about Maher pretty well. deurbano Jun 2017 #114

Side note, but Sasse is a partiularly vile specimen of charlatan, calling KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #68

Maybe a joke gone wrong, but this is not "racism." LBM20 Jun 2017 #71

Agree. It's also a Gone With The Wind reference, JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #76

I don't care in the slightest. Inkfreak Jun 2017 #73

Much Ado about nothing packman Jun 2017 #74

Oh, here we go... Another shocking, offensive commedian.. LakeArenal Jun 2017 #78

"It's not just a matter of it not being polite to say nigger in public" Sunlei Jun 2017 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #95

I noticed it at the time, it was inappropriate but shouoldn't be a career ender. Lil Missy Jun 2017 #87

Lil Missy is correct.. LakeArenal Jun 2017 #108

Was it an "appropriate" remark? Heartstrings Jun 2017 #91

Bill Maher has not made the world any more or less JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #96

Couldn't have said it better.. jovibennett Jun 2017 #105

Thank you! Very well said. scarletwoman Jun 2017 #146

Can we please avoid a Kathy Griffin redo here? bitterross Jun 2017 #102

Maher needs to apologize profusely and BLM needs to accept the apology Not Ruth Jun 2017 #103

Welcome to DU JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #110

@deray agrees with you Not Ruth Jun 2017 #143

Meanwhile Bill and D.L Hughley are SCVDem Jun 2017 #112

Yes it was wrong, but should he be fired? vkkv Jun 2017 #115

I saw the "N word" spray painted on the side of a building downtown. Was it racist? Binkie The Clown Jun 2017 #116

I thought "PC" was a thing of the past. moondust Jun 2017 #118

It is not okay for any person to say that - Cornel West or Bill Maher Justice Jun 2017 #119

I was never comfortable with the "blogga please" segment he used to do stillsoleft Jun 2017 #121

Good points. We think of who might be harmed in the quest for the perfect zinger. deurbano Jun 2017 #133

I'm African American. I watched the video so I could understand the context underthematrix Jun 2017 #126

I'm actually far more angry at Ben Sasse for LAUGHING at the "joke" Fluke a Snooker Jun 2017 #129

I cannot believe... Mike B Jun 2017 #131

So do you think we should burn JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #136

It's not wrong when "we" do it. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #138

No, that is not the context that "everyone" is using. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #144

That really truly is the context people are talking about. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #145

I see. So you just generally don't like him, no matter what he does. So you're not able to judge Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #153

Bravo! (or Brava!, whichever applies, since I don't know your gender) scarletwoman Jun 2017 #152