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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders lambasts 'absolute failure' of Democratic party's strategy [View all]BainsBane
(53,032 posts)131. The excuse given is that he doesn't control the national party
and the GOP can run ads about Nancy Pelosi, according to Crystal Ball. So their excuse for not winning seats is that Democrats who are able to win are in office, when they shouldn't be, and that we won't have a true test of that faction's winnability until they control all offices, even though they can't win any. It's pretty strange reasoning.
Then there is the fact that most of the anointed candidates are to the right of Pelosi, but we're supposed to pretend they are to the left because . . .
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Bernie Sanders lambasts 'absolute failure' of Democratic party's strategy [View all]
nitpicker
Jun 2017
OP
it's republicans who are standing in the way of the minimum wage . and Obama was right about TPP
JI7
Jun 2017
#1
Obama had his chance to shape the TPP into a truly progressive agreement, but failed.
appal_jack
Jun 2017
#82
Has the Democratic Party done anything about voter suppression in the last 20 years?
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#94
Actually they have tried and of course it was a priority of Hillary's campaign platform..
mhw
Jun 2017
#113
Yes they have- tons of court cases against Crosscheck, loads of voter registration....
bettyellen
Jun 2017
#128
stevepal was talking about Bernie & what Bernie says the Democrats should be doing.
Demit
Jun 2017
#141
If Bernie Sanders had run as an independent, Clinton supporters would be attacking him like Stein.
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#216
Voter suppression to me isn't a smug talking point for interparty warfare.
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#232
You should start your own thread, instead of trying to change the subject on this one.
Demit
Jun 2017
#243
Hijacking the thread was talking about Sanders joining the Democratic Party...
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#246
a wonderfully creative way to avoid answering a direct question with a direct answer.
LanternWaste
Jun 2017
#222
Ok answer the question, what has the Democratic Party done about voter suppression?
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#224
It is clear as can be what is going on, who is working with who and who has NO
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#136
I know exactly what you mean. They have lost election after election and don't want to change
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#228
If you think the status quo is ok go with the Democratic Party on this issue.
Dustlawyer
Jun 2017
#37
Well, please provide Sanders and all other politicians with a list of words you require them to say.
Trial_By_Fire
Jun 2017
#265
Join hin in what? This article doesn't even address what you say is the biggest problem
pnwmom
Jun 2017
#110
well, if such a thing exists it is part of a much bigger group, i cant say who though
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#140
I wont be here much longer, my insistence on supporting the DEMOCRATIC party
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#146
I think there is a conversation being stifled here that needs to be heard. There is going to be
seaglass
Jun 2017
#192
Re-read my first response to you, it's about him being a 'leader' in the fight against voter
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#283
Uh huh, like that corp dem Hillary, right? You know the one I am talking about, right?
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#142
I dont think you were doing hyperbole at all, if we know one thing from last year it is
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#143
Hillary didnt do anti trumpism only and if you think she did you were not paying attention
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#145
While we shouldn't "lose sight of who our adversaries are" there is a unity problem.
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#237
I know who you're hinting about, and neither of those assisted his/her campaign.
George II
Jun 2017
#130
Broken record alert...why not stick with bashing the repug party for a change? Duh!
brush
Jun 2017
#17
Yes, I guess Ossoff can be grateful after all that he got damned with faint praise. (nt)
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#280
I happen to think that turning our back on the largest consumer market (Asia) was very foolish.
Trust Buster
Jun 2017
#18
I never mentioned Hillary. This thread is about Sander's and his comments.
Trust Buster
Jun 2017
#22
Actually, we are already witnessing the decline in export possibilities because of turning away from
BainsBane
Jun 2017
#50
I agree. The voters that Trump attracted ignored the calls since the 80's that a high school
Trust Buster
Jun 2017
#65
+ a bunch. Treating foreign workers like scabs was wrong. Some of the TPP rhetoric hurt Clinton too.
Hoyt
Jun 2017
#166
Because the winning strategy is to tell voters that the Democratic Party is worthless
BainsBane
Jun 2017
#45
and the reasons for that are fairly complicated, and not surprising. Its not like it isn't an uphill
JCanete
Jun 2017
#190
"it needs to open up its doors to working people, and young people, and older people
betsuni
Jun 2017
#31
Sanders wrote a book and received $800,000 advance. Hardly netted himself 'million$'
Trial_By_Fire
Jun 2017
#92
First and foremost: Hillary won by 3,000,000 votes over Trump. She WON. Despite Putin, Comey, ...
Hekate
Jun 2017
#211
The irony is that Democratic measures to "open up its doors" benefited his campaign.
ucrdem
Jun 2017
#169
Democratic party favoritism and a rigged system has kept Bernie Sanders in Washington for the last
JTFrog
Jun 2017
#170
If HRC had become president, there would have been a chance of pushing the Democratic Party left.
athena
Jun 2017
#70
The Koch-funded Third Way corporatist mentality was designed to water down the Democratic Party.
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2017
#54
Primarily banksters. Third Way is a Leo-Liberal Think Tank. Let's see what that definiton means.
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2017
#75
The NYT has editorial columns running today about the perilous Democratic split.
Paladin
Jun 2017
#73
Not to my knowledge. Even Zephyre Teachout lost in 2016. She should have won it too.
mhw
Jun 2017
#83
He "hails the successes of the progressive agenda" but his candidates aren't winning seats.
tammywammy
Jun 2017
#89
could have been done decades ago had he chosen to represent his state differently. Money isn't hard
JCanete
Jun 2017
#183
so you chose not to acknowledge that he hasn't capitalized on his status in all of this time, and
JCanete
Jun 2017
#197
that characterization does not match my own. The democratic party "let" him use the appratus
JCanete
Jun 2017
#199
"establishment Democrats"? What Mr. Sanders is doing is telling everyone who supported Hillary is
still_one
Jun 2017
#139
If Sanders were posting here, they would be deleted for refighting the primaries.
Hoyt
Jun 2017
#168
How can he work for the DNC and say these things? Seems hypocritical at best.
bettyellen
Jun 2017
#147
The way I see it, is this OP certainly lets Dems see once and for all where Bernie stands...
Hekate
Jun 2017
#163
Well he has a right to push his views and their certainly is an audience for his vision.
hrmjustin
Jun 2017
#165
We didn't win last year... I don't think getting the activist base all riled up by criticizing
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#286