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Stuart G

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Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:34 PM Jun 2017

London Tower Fire, At Least 12 Dead. (update - 55 missing..presumed dead) [View all]

Last edited Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:29 PM - Edit history (6)

Source: BBC

Update..6/17/17

A total of 58 people are dead or missing, presumed dead following the devastating fire at Grenfell Tower in west London, police have said.

Commander Stuart Cundy said that number "may increase". The BBC understands it could be around 70 people in total.

The recovery operation at the burnt-out block of flats has resumed and could take weeks, he said.

Meanwhile, PM Theresa May admitted support for families in the "initial hours" was "not good enough".

The statement came after Mrs May met some of the people made homeless by the fire and volunteer helpers in Downing Street.


As they left Number 10, one representative spoke to reporters briefly, saying they would not make a full statement yet.


Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40315194



Update........from General Discussion. 6/17/17

from this post...by shenmue ....posted at 2:08pm in General Discussion...following is shenmue's link:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029217991
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I hope Britain has laws that can put people in jail for negligence . angstlessk Jun 2017 #1
OMG! Horrible! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #2
A guy was on BBC last night who rushed into the building shortly after it started OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #3
If there were no smoke alarms....How can that be???????nt Stuart G Jun 2017 #4
The building is owned by the council (social housing, I believe) and was recently renovated OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #7
The new cladding is a major issue for the spread, but the recent renovation seems to be crucial. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #10
I'd seen a question about whether compartmentalization had been reinstated - is there a link? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #11
Here: Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #16
It also sounds like compartmentation is hit or miss whether there's been refurbishment or not: Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #17
then there was this guy today: Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #13
Appears to have started in one apartment MosheFeingold Jun 2017 #5
It wouldn't take much now. OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #6
buildings like this are supposed to have fire suppression systems Mosby Jun 2017 #15
Legislators', builders' and designers' negligence are factors, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #8
I'm glad there isn't a multibillion dollar legion of pundits and lobbyists Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #12
Oh, I think there've already been some muted pleas about not "politicizing" a tragedy. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #14
The height of the building is also a factor. Igel Jun 2017 #18
Yes, firefighters were asked about that on Channel 4 News (UK) earlier. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #19
So May's previous chiefs were toxic and her new one is criminally negligent. suffragette Jun 2017 #24
The building had no fire alarms! It was 1am, if not for heroic people banging on doors..... Sunlei Jun 2017 #9
Death toll in London inferno rises to 17 as investigators comb fire-gutted tower Eugene Jun 2017 #20
Video has emerged of then-London Mayor Boris Johnson defending his cuts to fire services in London OnDoutside Jun 2017 #21
Latest News...30 dead..76 missing.. Stuart G Jun 2017 #22
Another update 55 missing presumed dead..link in original post Stuart G Jun 2017 #23
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