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In reply to the discussion: Bombshell: Koch-Funded Study Finds ‘Global Warming Is Real’ (...and the cause is human.) [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)81. Better too late than never
From The Guardian:
Climate change study forces sceptical scientists to change minds
Prof Richard Muller, a physicist and climate change sceptic who founded the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (Best) project, said he was surprised by the findings. "We were not expecting this, but as scientists, it is our duty to let the evidence change our minds." He added that he now considers himself a "converted sceptic" and his views had undergone a "total turnaround" in a short space of time.
Last October, the Best team published results that showed the average global land temperature has risen by about 1C since the mid-1950s. But the team did not look for possible fingerprints to explain this warming. The latest data analysis reached much further back in time but, crucially, also searched for the most likely cause of the rise by plotting the upward temperature curve against suspected "forcings". It analysed the warming impact of solar activity a popular theory among climate sceptics but found that, over the past 250 years, the contribution of the sun has been "consistent with zero". Volcanic eruptions were found to have caused short dips in the temperature rise in the period 17501850, but "only weak analogues" in the 20th century.
When the Best project was announced last year, the prominent climate sceptic blogger Anthony Watts was consulted on the methodology. He stated at the time: "I'm prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong." However, tensions have since arisen between Watts and Muller.
Prof Michael Mann, the Penn State palaeoclimatologist who has faced hostility from climate sceptics for his famous "hockey stick" graph showing a rapid rise in temperatures during the 20th century, said he welcomed the Best results as they "demonstrated once again what scientists have known with some degree of certainty for nearly two decades". He added: "I applaud Muller and his colleagues for acting as any good scientists would, following where their analyses led them, without regard for the possible political repercussions. They are certain to be attacked by the professional climate change denial crowd for their findings."
Prof Richard Muller, a physicist and climate change sceptic who founded the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (Best) project, said he was surprised by the findings. "We were not expecting this, but as scientists, it is our duty to let the evidence change our minds." He added that he now considers himself a "converted sceptic" and his views had undergone a "total turnaround" in a short space of time.
Last October, the Best team published results that showed the average global land temperature has risen by about 1C since the mid-1950s. But the team did not look for possible fingerprints to explain this warming. The latest data analysis reached much further back in time but, crucially, also searched for the most likely cause of the rise by plotting the upward temperature curve against suspected "forcings". It analysed the warming impact of solar activity a popular theory among climate sceptics but found that, over the past 250 years, the contribution of the sun has been "consistent with zero". Volcanic eruptions were found to have caused short dips in the temperature rise in the period 17501850, but "only weak analogues" in the 20th century.
When the Best project was announced last year, the prominent climate sceptic blogger Anthony Watts was consulted on the methodology. He stated at the time: "I'm prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong." However, tensions have since arisen between Watts and Muller.
Prof Michael Mann, the Penn State palaeoclimatologist who has faced hostility from climate sceptics for his famous "hockey stick" graph showing a rapid rise in temperatures during the 20th century, said he welcomed the Best results as they "demonstrated once again what scientists have known with some degree of certainty for nearly two decades". He added: "I applaud Muller and his colleagues for acting as any good scientists would, following where their analyses led them, without regard for the possible political repercussions. They are certain to be attacked by the professional climate change denial crowd for their findings."
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Bombshell: Koch-Funded Study Finds ‘Global Warming Is Real’ (...and the cause is human.) [View all]
kpete
Jul 2012
OP
Yeah, no shit. He better not go on any long walks, or he might suicide himself. No small planes
Nay
Jul 2012
#55
I would wager they already knew human magnified global warming was for real but up until
Uncle Joe
Jul 2012
#58
They didn't expect this result when they commissioned the study some years ago. n/t
cheapdate
Jul 2012
#92
I remember going to the very first "Earth Day" celebration in 1970 -when we still believed change
cyberpj
Jul 2012
#82
It's not just the sea rise, it's the destruction of farmland and water supplies
NickB79
Jul 2012
#38
Do you really think the damage at +8C would be confined to India and South China?
GliderGuider
Jul 2012
#89
"We have to do everything possible to slow climate change down. It is accelerating."
CrispyQ
Jul 2012
#52
If the Kochs have half the business acumen attributed to them they will be moving into
xtraxritical
Jul 2012
#18
It's probably simpler than that: they know they will die soon, and they don't care
hatrack
Jul 2012
#37
Ick! I just dropped over to the poptech site. Denialists of the first order.
GliderGuider
Jul 2012
#80
Too often people try to pass off ideologically driven bullshit as "science". It isn't.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#77
Either Kochs figured out a way of making a shitpot of money, or we're completely fucked.
Kennah
Jul 2012
#40
Muller's break with orthodox climate science is mainly that he was disturbed by "climategate"
caraher
Jul 2012
#56