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105. Spend the money on mental health care, smoking cessation, cancer research, etc

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:05 PM

Aug 2012

and you will save tens of thousands if not millions of lives . Spend it on a national systems to track bulk ammo purchases and you will save a handful of lives. Given the choice where would you spend the money?

The states can't even come up with the money to fully comply with existing Federal law - many states have not put the names of felons, people with mental issues and other people ineligible to own firearms. Why don't we fully fund existing reporting mandates first before coming up with new ones?

It would be extremely expensive - perhaps billions is over the top but it would cost in the hundreds of millions. Canada spend a billion on a failed and useless firearms registry.

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Obama Will 'Evaluate' Bill Limiting Online Ammunition Sales, White House Says [View all] onehandle Jul 2012 OP

Why do we want to shave off much needed votes. Amazing. Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #1

Apparently we have more votes than we need kctim Jul 2012 #2

How many people who need 6,000 rounds of ammunition are going to vote Democratic. onehandle Jul 2012 #3

I know a boatload of them. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #4

6,000 rounds of ammunition to a real Democrat? JDPriestly Jul 2012 #17

They'll do exactly the same thing as they'd do with 1 bullet, 6000 times over petronius Jul 2012 #22

Aye, he is not a TRUE Scotsman! nt NickB79 Jul 2012 #40

Stop peeking up the kilt! nt Remmah2 Jul 2012 #59

'Tis a grand bit of lyric... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #97

I was thinking of the same lyrics. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #98

I just can't help smiling... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #100

I'm a real Democrat calmeco702 Jul 2012 #54

What is a "real" Democrat? Remmah2 Jul 2012 #58

I Doubt It. (nt) Paladin Jul 2012 #32

40 percent of Dems are armed Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #45

And I'm sure everyone that you know who was old enough voted for McGovern, too. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #88

Can you define "boatload"? lunatica Aug 2012 #92

I buy in those amounts. hack89 Jul 2012 #6

I should imagine that you could get an exemption. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #18

To what end? hack89 Jul 2012 #30

Yet you could still buy as much as you do now lunatica Aug 2012 #93

It would cost me hundreds of dollars. hack89 Aug 2012 #94

First off I'm not for banning guns lunatica Aug 2012 #99

Because such a system would cost billions to set up and run hack89 Aug 2012 #101

Billions? Really? lunatica Aug 2012 #102

Spend the money on mental health care, smoking cessation, cancer research, etc hack89 Aug 2012 #105

I would spend the money doing both lunatica Aug 2012 #106

It would be at the bottom of my list hack89 Aug 2012 #107

We've already tried it, it didn't work. X_Digger Aug 2012 #108

Thanks for the pdf file lunatica Aug 2012 #109

Yes, and those are people who "need" 6,000 rounds and "need" to so anonymously. mbperrin Jul 2012 #10

There is no "anonymously". ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #42

Yes, and a box of 100 is the smallest. Please mbperrin Jul 2012 #49

You must have misread where I said that a case is the SECOND smallest ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #57

I had 23 guns stolen in 9 different burglaries from 1983-1986. mbperrin Jul 2012 #68

Some validity, absolutely. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #69

They were stored in the five different gun safes that they were inherited in. mbperrin Jul 2012 #70

Damn. Those guys were serious! ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #71

No. We're at ground zero here for oilfield theft. $20 million last year mbperrin Jul 2012 #76

What's wrong with saving money? hack89 Jul 2012 #62

Need really has nothing to do with it calmeco702 Jul 2012 #55

.22 ammo comes in 5000 round cases,other Peepsite Jul 2012 #16

I have twice that in my closet, and I voted for Obama. nt NickB79 Jul 2012 #20

If I count up all my calibers, I probably have close to 10k. X_Digger Jul 2012 #28

A ton of them, including me. X_Digger Jul 2012 #27

I buy most of my ammunition in full cases slackmaster Jul 2012 #48

"Ignore the gun psychos, onehandle. Let them fear their own shadows" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #87

Tell you what, go down to the store nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #78

"anonymously" online.. *snort* X_Digger Jul 2012 #80

Ask your fire dept. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #81

And this fire hazard has exactly what to do with "anonymous" sales? X_Digger Aug 2012 #82

I hope you do not have one nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #83

But he only used about 100 rnds in the shooting.... virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #5

Ah but imagine if he'd only been able to buy small amounts 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #8

Frankly, I don't want my mail carrier or my UPS guy carrying JDPriestly Jul 2012 #19

What is a non-ridiculous amount for a mail carrier to carry? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #23

Why not? What harm is there? NickB79 Jul 2012 #26

Please do educate us in the science behind that statement. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #35

My UPS carrier delivered 88 pounds of ammunition to me once slackmaster Jul 2012 #37

Just like the Assault Weapons Ban. Dr_Scholl Jul 2012 #51

Bingo 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #60

Pssst.... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #96

Does the NRA now recommend that mass murderers limit themselves to 100 rounds now? mbperrin Jul 2012 #11

While we are at it, let's get rid of the pointless 1934 law nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #79

Exactly... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #84

I forgot the sarcasm tag nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #85

Hi discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #86

+++++++++++++++++++ MindMover Jul 2012 #7

wasnt this tried already? bossy22 Jul 2012 #9

Obama believes "After my election I have more flexibility" but will he repudiate his earlier promise jody Jul 2012 #12

I could see this presidential election slipping away on gun control... be careful Mr. Prez...n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #13

More likely to negatively affect congressional makeup. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #14

Ya know, now that I think about it the constitution doesnt grant a right to ammo. nt cstanleytech Jul 2012 #15

Actually, it does if the Supreme Court is to be listened to NickB79 Jul 2012 #24

Yes but I am speaking of this current court. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #34

No, the Constitution doesn't grant ANY rights whatsoever slackmaster Jul 2012 #25

I've always wondered why Missycim Jul 2012 #73

It's a very common and IMO very disturbing misunderstanding of the relationship between government slackmaster Jul 2012 #74

You're right! The constitution doesn't *grant* any rights. X_Digger Jul 2012 #31

Why? I could go to the nearest Walmart and buy this much NickB79 Jul 2012 #21

When you clear out the Walmart Peepsite Jul 2012 #29

Oh Noes! bongbong Jul 2012 #33

All this means is more $$$$$ for the online ammo vendors. -..__... Jul 2012 #36

Reid isn't stupid, thank God. NickB79 Jul 2012 #41

I don't understand the "anonymously" part. I've never been able to purchase anything anonymously on truthisfreedom Jul 2012 #38

It's just a lie, intended to create an emotional reaction slackmaster Jul 2012 #39

Every place I've ordered ammo from required a picture ID NickB79 Jul 2012 #43

the bill is written that the ID must be shown in person... n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #44

For ONLINE purchases? Do people understand how the Internet works anymore? NickB79 Jul 2012 #64

it is written that way to prevent online purchases... n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #72

So a defacto ban then. NickB79 Aug 2012 #104

works great if a thief steals a wallet with driver's license & credit card wordpix Jul 2012 #53

The same could be said of pretty much anything on Ebay or Amazon. NickB79 Jul 2012 #65

The only effective gun regulation would be to add semi-auto guns to the list of class II firearms Sgent Jul 2012 #46

Politically impossible yet totally sensible. Ash_F Jul 2012 #56

Yes, totally sensible to ban the most common rifles in America NickB79 Jul 2012 #66

You don't know what title II firearms are, do you? Ash_F Aug 2012 #89

A de facto ban is still a ban. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #91

Yes, I do actually NickB79 Aug 2012 #103

This won't pass in an election year, anyway. This is for next year. If he wins. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #47

So we're going to ban something that doesn't happen anyway. JoeyT Jul 2012 #50

A bunch of smoke era veteran Jul 2012 #52

Political suicide. Have we forgotten 1994??? Odin2005 Jul 2012 #61

A lot of your anti-Clinton friends have died since then, though...eom Kolesar Aug 2012 #90

i'm a strong supporter of gun control, but we have other pressing issues samsingh Jul 2012 #63

Translation, give me time to review the polling numbers happyslug Jul 2012 #67

Second term, you make a move on gun control. Election year this will cost sarcasmo Jul 2012 #75

No it won't Kolesar Jul 2012 #77

Right, republicans won't vote twice JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2012 #95