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49. IMHO, the Dems

Sun Jul 23, 2017, 06:49 PM

Jul 2017

spent way too much time trying to appease centrists and trying to win over GOPers by acting like more polite GOPers. Meanwhile, trying to win over the GOP by acting like a not racist version of the GOP hasn't won over any Republicans and has alienated Democrats who want Democratic leaders to act like Democrats. Independents don't vote for people who push a polite version of more of the same. They vote for people who are bold and have a vision no matter how fucking stupid it is.

A Dem who wants unrestricted free trade with nations with low to no standards is a Republican.
A Dem who wants to lower our standards to compete with said nations is a Republican
A Dem who wants to get us involved in needless nation building wars is a Republican
A Dem who agrees with privatization of everything is a Republican
A Dem who wants to slash the social safety net is a Republican

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UPDATED - Schumer: Democrats were 'namby-pamby' [View all] DonViejo Jul 2017 OP

Optics Roy Rolling Jul 2017 #1

Sounds good to me Chuck, go strong with it! BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #53

So why are Democrats so namby-pamby? What are we afraid of? jalan48 Jul 2017 #3

What are we afraid of??? Plucketeer Jul 2017 #6

Bingo! The real identity politics. jalan48 Jul 2017 #9

Yup.............. Kathy M Jul 2017 #39

We've been cowering in the corner since 1988 (arguably 1984) afraid of ourselves. Gore1FL Jul 2017 #58

At the very least we should be able to recapture the flag. How can the party that sells us out to tblue37 Jul 2017 #81

glad to hear he will capture the agenda and call for medicare for all....ummm nt msongs Jul 2017 #4

Another example Roy Rolling Jul 2017 #5

He doesn't want a paper trail. He wasn't kidding about couriers. bettyellen Jul 2017 #19

I'm a year older than he is. A serious computer user since 1983 years when he was 38. hedda_foil Jul 2017 #24

CP/M - An oldie but goody! sfwriter Jul 2017 #45

or does npt want use email / computer .... can you blame a person for not in this day Kathy M Jul 2017 #40

We're afraid of offending someone because bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #7

We will be eviscerated no matter what, so go for it all. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #30

Agree .... and in the mean time who knows what may pass before next election ...... Kathy M Jul 2017 #60

Yes...amazing how once we ignore the venom & get to work, we make our own luck, &good things happen Alice11111 Jul 2017 #86

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #89

M8ght as well give them something real to carry on about... Alice11111 Jul 2017 #98

That's part of it, but Democrats are also our own worst enemies. The moment a Democrat comes Squinch Jul 2017 #93

Sounds like they're kind of adopting the Sanders platform. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2017 #8

Or the Clinton platform. MineralMan Jul 2017 #10

If it's the existing platform/agenda, why is he announcing a new one? thesquanderer Jul 2017 #14

I know. Most people don't know what the Democrats have been proposing for years. CBHagman Jul 2017 #21

Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen January 29, 2016 Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #33

The platform of the Democratic Party, as of 2016, calls for MineralMan Jul 2017 #35

Pointing out who was FOR universal health care and when after your platform comment Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #37

. Kathy M Jul 2017 #41

Univeral healthcare was a cornerstone of 1993 Hillarycare. lapucelle Jul 2017 #62

You can also go back to Truman who wanted Unerversal healthcare Kathy M Jul 2017 #84

Universal coverage as a principal and an achievable policy goal has a long history lapucelle Jul 2017 #91

Hillary Clinton supports universal health care and nothing in that article or video NYC Liberal Jul 2017 #54

WELL SAID. riversedge Jul 2017 #77

She is also a private citizen so it really doesn't matter, does it? WoonTars Jul 2017 #102

Hillary's fight for universal coverage as a Democratic Party Core Principal began in 1993 lapucelle Jul 2017 #56

Single-payer is not the only iteration of Universal Healthcare. see Germany and France emulatorloo Jul 2017 #63

Yep...++++++++ JHan Jul 2017 #103

Crafty edit! Squinch Jul 2017 #94

So funny!!! NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #55

Thanks, Nance. You nailed the willful misinterpretation going on. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #57

There was a group of people here ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #72

US News Clinton's Health Care Attack Makes No Sense Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #65

Mr. Steve, I hear crickets chirping... Doc Coco Jul 2017 #66

Listening to Abbey Road again? Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #68

Speak of the devil! Doc Coco Jul 2017 #69

Paul is in concert tonight in Omaha Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #71

In other words ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #67

HUH??? Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #70

Okey-dokey, Steve. NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #73

Politifact: Trump says Clinton "wants to go to a single-payer plan" for health care Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #74

But I thought she said ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #75

That the best you & friends can do against Politifact? Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #78

No, I'm actually still waiting ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #80

I don't see where she says single payer will happen anywhere Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #97

So, let me follow your logic NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #99

I said she didn't limit her comment to just Bernie's plan Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #100

Put down the shovel, Steve ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #104

Still deflecting I see Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #105

The only one "deflecting" here is you. NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #107

You're citing an opinion piece from a news magazine as if that opinion is news. lapucelle Jul 2017 #92

Thanks to you and Nance Greggs ... for defending a Democrat on a Democratic board JHan Jul 2017 #101

PPPSSSTTT Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #106

It's hard to follow reasoning that mistakenly conflates key terms. lapucelle Jul 2017 #108

Have you read it? I have had to ask that question a lot lately . Too many have no clue lunasun Jul 2017 #79

This is a great idea. It would put us in the news weekly re great policies we actually have rather Squinch Jul 2017 #95

Bullseye! deancr Jul 2017 #11

Yep not fooled Jul 2017 #13

Democrats were 'namby-pamby'??? people Jul 2017 #12

Shumer is protecting his base: the Pharmaceutical Industry delisen Jul 2017 #28

Let us buy from Canada!! Alice11111 Jul 2017 #31

+1 Kathy M Jul 2017 #42

Sounds like they're doubling their efforts on incrementalism. ZX86 Jul 2017 #50

Agree. nt zentrum Jul 2017 #82

This may simply reflect the difference of being in power and being out of power in both Houses and karynnj Jul 2017 #15

"...with public polling showing that most people don't know what Democrats stand for ... chowder66 Jul 2017 #16

Yep kcdoug1 Jul 2017 #52

Good. All progressives need to unite behind Democratic leadership yardwork Jul 2017 #17

& keep up the resistance, stalling, whatever it takes to Alice11111 Jul 2017 #32

Whatever the 'plan' is xxqqqzme Jul 2017 #18

The ignore comes from the top...TG the people, states, Alice11111 Jul 2017 #34

Not "were". "Are" Namby-Pamby. flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #20

Fuck yes! More of this! nt Quixote1818 Jul 2017 #22

It's their defining characteristic. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #23

So....WHERE IS THE DEMOCRATIC HEALTH PLAN PROPOSAL??? Hulk Jul 2017 #25

Bernie has been makeing a lot of stops around country ... I think he ws in florida couple days back Kathy M Jul 2017 #59

You are correct. Hulk Jul 2017 #88

Why not begin here? lapucelle Jul 2017 #96

then they have fight for those things day after day, month after month, year after year... yurbud Jul 2017 #26

Ha ha ha! We would see steam coming out of DUers ears if Bernie had said this. progressoid Jul 2017 #27

THIS!!! Omaha Steve Jul 2017 #29

Hey Steve. progressoid Jul 2017 #85

Bernie did say that last week on his PBS interview :P Sunlei Jul 2017 #38

+1 Kathy M Jul 2017 #44

Bernie said he was going to introduce a bill ... wonder what that day will be like Kathy M Jul 2017 #43

mainly on PBS he said the USA must bring down the cost of medicine. Corps rip off people & the Gov. Sunlei Jul 2017 #47

Thanks ... yes the price gouging has to stop........ Kathy M Jul 2017 #61

Yup eom Arazi Jul 2017 #48

Why is Schumer BASHING!!!!!!!! and ATTACKING!!!!!!! the party????? QC Jul 2017 #76

all right! lets get started! Sunlei Jul 2017 #36

If Du-ers zentrum Jul 2017 #46

So true LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #90

IMHO, the Dems NCDem777 Jul 2017 #49

Does Schumer get a hide? BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2017 #64

Hey, CONGRESS! Talk is cheap... RealityChik Jul 2017 #83

Impeachment is on the table ! YOHABLO Jul 2017 #87