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politicat

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75. I'm not so sure on China. Russia, maybe. Disaffected former Soviet engineers? Likely.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 04:41 PM
Jul 2017

China tolerates Lil Kim, but they treat him like a big family treats the crazy drunk cousin with the conspiracy theories: they invite him to holidays, but they water down the booze. He's family, so they deal with it. But they're not giving him the good booze or matches and the turkey fryer -- they know they don't want to deal with that fire on their backside, or taking in cray cousin's brood of feral children when cray cousin wraps his Fiero around a tree.

Russia does seem curiously blind in NK's direction, and I mean that literally. Their radar at DPRK is either really shitty or they lie very consistently about what they see on launches. (As in, their math always works exactly as if their radar is myopic at the exact same degree.) That could be intentional, or they could be just good and consistent on that lie. They've got a lot of empty territory (populated mostly with people who aren't racially pure Slavs) between Moscow and the bulk of their population and Lil Kim, so they could consider him a minor risk for which they may need billions of pounds of concrete someday.

My bet is DPRK found some former Soviet engineers who couldn't make it into the Russian mil or private sector, coupled with a very well trained generation of math and engineering brains who know what's possible with ballistics, and rely on some old plans plus reverse engineering and refining. Pay the engineers well, ensure they've got what they want.

Lil Kim is not stupid. He's an asshole, but we err at our own peril if we don't credit him with social skills for his own culture and intellectual brains.

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Trump: 'We'll handle North Korea' [View all] highplainsdem Jul 2017 OP
The Fuhrer-in-Chief needs to handle HIMSELF... the stupid fuck is goin to get us ALL killed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #1
Hey look, yes he is likely to get ALL of us killed, but my Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #53
More words that mean nothing. madaboutharry Jul 2017 #2
SCROTUS should go off somewhere and "handle" himself, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #3
Like a 3-year-old's magical thinking. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #4
A translation of tRumpspeak into English TexasProgresive Jul 2017 #5
The man is an idiot. He said handle 4 times and just but in reality he said nothing. Botany Jul 2017 #14
he's doing the thing losers do azureblue Jul 2017 #45
And North Korea, hearing our Fearless Leader promise to "handle" it, no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #6
egods!! that comment is sickening! riversedge Jul 2017 #7
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that NK is getting help INdemo Jul 2017 #8
Yes, I think the same. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #26
Yep I agree Trump is being played by both China and Russia nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #30
And Trump is too stupid to comprehend what is really going on! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #37
Yes he has no idea nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #39
he's way too self deluded azureblue Jul 2017 #47
Yes, a VERY delusional sociopathic authoritarian individual. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #61
I'm not so sure on China. Russia, maybe. Disaffected former Soviet engineers? Likely. politicat Jul 2017 #75
How would China benefit from North Korean missle threats against the USA? Corvo Bianco Jul 2017 #76
China is expanding militarily all over the Pacific. Want the attention off of them harun Aug 2017 #80
Try Iran. They just launched a rocket capable of carrying a satellite into orbit. icymist Jul 2017 #77
Certainly what I was thinking. Russia and/or China using the regime to keep harun Aug 2017 #79
Paper Tiger jpak Jul 2017 #9
Step back, he's gonna tweet! nt Xipe Totec Jul 2017 #10
Spoken like a true five-time republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief Achilleaze Jul 2017 #11
+1 never saw that cartoon before now . lunasun Jul 2017 #36
never a truer sentiment expressed so well!! demigoddess Jul 2017 #55
well now, I feel so much better.... NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #12
If you have any loved ones in or around Seoul, try to convince them to leave ASAP... Moostache Jul 2017 #13
I'm becoming frightened nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #16
There is only one person I have ever loathed until trump. Doreen Jul 2017 #24
Oh you can bet this administration and thier fans are against taking any refugees if this happens lunasun Jul 2017 #34
Can't blame you for saying that, Moostache... you spoke for me as well. secondwind Jul 2017 #42
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #44
If recent research is even close to accurate, we're ALL in trouble with just a few nukes going off NickB79 Jul 2017 #68
We can only hope the real powers to be madokie Jul 2017 #74
Don knows verb tenses. The best tenses. uppityperson Jul 2017 #15
Too bad he doesn't know many verbs! NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #18
Exactly the same! He uses the same simple stupid statements over and over, the RKP5637 Jul 2017 #35
Oh gawd.. great.. nt vkkv Jul 2017 #17
the king of non-confrontation is not going to do a damn thing. Javaman Jul 2017 #19
And that's how he worked the real estate world IMO. The guy himself is a dope. The term RKP5637 Jul 2017 #33
Current CNN headline: 'Time for talk is over': US grapples for new approach on North Korea Duppers Jul 2017 #20
And coming soon: Zambero Jul 2017 #21
Send them an Ugly Twit,,,,,,, dadda teach em! Cryptoad Jul 2017 #22
He really wants to be known as a President to use a nuke. ProgressiveValue Jul 2017 #23
Trump is an authoritarian sociopath. He has no feelings. Plus, he's stupid and on top of that RKP5637 Jul 2017 #31
+ 1000 demigoddess Jul 2017 #56
What is this WE s**t you got a mouse nesting in your hair do? usaf-vet Jul 2017 #25
I think our military leaders will refuse to do crazy crap for tRump! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #29
I hope to God not but he's surrounded by rapturists and end timers starting with Pence maryellen99 Jul 2017 #40
I hate to say it, but Trump looks good in comparison to Pence. Pence, is a real wacko! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #41
Yes but hopefully he'll be taken down by Mueller nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #59
And there must be some very shady shenanigans in the tRump empire! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #62
Mr. Masculine Donald J. tRump has spoken. As the world says LOL. He looks/acts/speaks RKP5637 Jul 2017 #27
Is that one of them there "Executive Orders"? MGKrebs Jul 2017 #28
He sent it to jaRED but Jarhead elehhhhna Jul 2017 #60
His Secret plan to obliterate ISIS ? Still secret lunasun Jul 2017 #32
It's too big for Trump's tiny hands! Quick! Send up the Jaredsignal! muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #38
Remember when Joe Scarborough reported that when BLOTUS was getting Nat. Security briefings.. PearliePoo2 Jul 2017 #43
It's awful that the Japanese and South Koreans have to live in mortal fear not just from one madman, smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #48
2-man rule, General Mattis would have to agree IronLionZion Jul 2017 #67
He needs to be yanked now, no time for Mueller. miyazaki Jul 2017 #46
You're right! ElementaryPenguin Jul 2017 #70
Trump is too stupid to keep secrets - We will bomb N Korea soon! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2017 #49
Yep may God help us all nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #63
You couldn't handle a 3-7 Lego set, RoadkillHead. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #50
I have a bad feeling CanonRay Jul 2017 #51
Fucking kook. SHRED Jul 2017 #52
Like "we've" handled everything ELSE the past six months? Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #54
"handle" is the new "great" AJT Jul 2017 #57
Blah, blah, blah. Nitram Jul 2017 #58
He's going to try a limited strike,... LudwigPastorius Jul 2017 #64
This policy is insane . . FairWinds Jul 2017 #65
Those aren't reassuring words coming from Trump. He can't handle anything. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #66
Great, Mickey Mouse with orange hair says and predicted................. turbinetree Jul 2017 #69
Does the press have to treat this gibberish as if it's an actual response? 6000eliot Jul 2017 #71
I could him seeing him attempting a limited strike and then the SHTF fairly quickly nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #72
the only country left trump can BuLlY. Mr. trump why don't you ask russia to close the NK ferry? Sunlei Jul 2017 #73
God I hope not. If Trump is forced into war with N K we are doomed. Kablooie Aug 2017 #78
More evidence of Trump's dementia area51 Aug 2017 #81
Why does he say essentially the same sentence four times in a row? Zing Zing Zingbah Aug 2017 #82
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