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11. Right, everybody who isn't a socialist

Thu Aug 10, 2017, 12:49 PM

Aug 2017

is a republican. What a bunch of hogwash. I was a republican 40 years ago and today's centerist democrats are quite liberal by those standards. I remember the 90s when Bill and Hill were denounced as the ultimate leftists for trying to legislate universal health care. I became a Democrat when Bill Clinton was president.

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Centrist Democrats begin pushing back against Bernie Sanders, liberal wing [View all] brooklynite Aug 2017 OP

from "New Democrat" to "New Democracy" virtualobserver Aug 2017 #1

Yes let's keep doing what keeps us losing onit2day Aug 2017 #19

The Dems are a diverse party! DownriverDem Aug 2017 #28

But! Don't push Repug memes, don't demonize women, LGBT, unions. lark Aug 2017 #32

Purity? That's BS. KPN Aug 2017 #36

Ideas that are mainstream in other countries MountCleaners Aug 2017 #69

Define "extreme left." (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2017 #85

Well said LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #35

Sure hope you are right about last gasp. KPN Aug 2017 #41

Yet Kamala Harris has been made Public Enemy #1 because reasons... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #66

Hmmmm, that's not the thinking I'm seeing exactly but bettyellen Aug 2017 #2

I'm glad that there's political discussion - the policies alternatives should be outlined. David__77 Aug 2017 #3

I agree TryLogic Aug 2017 #27

The medium is the message. I think that is where Bernie fits in. TryLogic Aug 2017 #39

Agreed. We have in a two-party system. Until that system changes, jrthin Aug 2017 #4

For Sure DownriverDem Aug 2017 #30

What does this have to do with voting third party? David__77 Aug 2017 #37

AH Back to the Future..... montanacowboy Aug 2017 #5

Remember DownriverDem Aug 2017 #31

Define "extreme left." (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2017 #88

Their website's about page: CrispyQ Aug 2017 #6

So I read number 4 NCDem777 Aug 2017 #74

Many of the "Leaders" are from pot states. SMC22307 Aug 2017 #87

"...laying the foundations for driverless vehicles..." SMC22307 Aug 2017 #82

How's that working out from a fundraising perspective? BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #7

Thats mine and most people I knows position.... vi5 Aug 2017 #12

The numbers aren't lying BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #20

Well, it's going to be my fault either way apparently... vi5 Aug 2017 #22

Mine too! KPN Aug 2017 #42

Democratic Centrists hibbing Aug 2017 #8

Rockefeller Republicans zipplewrath Aug 2017 #10

So there is no room in the Democratic Party for moderates? comradebillyboy Aug 2017 #13

Right, everybody who isn't a socialist comradebillyboy Aug 2017 #11

Not what I said, but have fun and peace hibbing Aug 2017 #14

No, not just your opinion. In Obama's own words ... earthshine Aug 2017 #24

Exactly. Ergo we have Trump. KPN Aug 2017 #43

I have no issue with this pushback Gothmog Aug 2017 #9

I am glad to see this, too. murielm99 Aug 2017 #21

It may be a push back against Kamala Harris and other progressives as well. David__77 Aug 2017 #40

Tom Vilsack's on board - that gives me hope SharonClark Aug 2017 #15

Bernie could end a lot of this just by joining the party permanently... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #16

If Bernie joined the party, he'd have to take direction from Schumer. earthshine Aug 2017 #26

Of course then Bernie wouldn't be able to have his cake and eat it, either Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #33

Bernie's influence is on progressive people like me, not the party. earthshine Aug 2017 #38

No, the leftbros didn't put any pressure Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #49

Thank you, great post. OnDoutside Aug 2017 #51

You move to extremes in many of your sentences and fall down your own illogical slippery slopes ... earthshine Aug 2017 #55

Oh, so now you want to make it personal, smart guy? Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #61

You can start with your own post as to who is insulting and making it personal. earthshine Aug 2017 #62

Sorry, I call bullshit concreteblue Aug 2017 #59

More personal attacks... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #63

Who is "jerry"? concreteblue Aug 2017 #73

I know it was 8 years ago, and memories fade...and myths are born GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #75

Exactly - the party, including Obama, didn't support it. earthshine Aug 2017 #77

Yeah... SHRED Aug 2017 #45

I honestly wonder why he didn't Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #52

Wow, this sounds suspiciously like...... vi5 Aug 2017 #17

Bingo ... because they are losing their control. KPN Aug 2017 #44

I was thinking the same thing. MuseRider Aug 2017 #48

Well I look forward to several days worth of near constant posts.... vi5 Aug 2017 #68

Dems need to get their heads out of their collective asses... KRISITNA Aug 2017 #18

How in HELL are we going to .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #23

LOL RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #25

Republicans must be celebrating. Dems cement a rift in the party and the GOP wins. Vinca Aug 2017 #29

Yeah I am sure they are laughing at us. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #90

Ignore Bernie again in 2018 and we will have a permanent Republican House and Senate . Bernie is geretogo Aug 2017 #34

Truth SHRED Aug 2017 #46

Yup eom Arazi Aug 2017 #56

Maybe Bernie just needs to run the party himself Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #65

Yes LovesPNW Aug 2017 #76

Under what possible scenario was Bernie ignored? LisaM Aug 2017 #72

Oh great, lets just give 2018 and 2020 away right now then. KPN Aug 2017 #47

If Democrats are to be officailly become Republican Lites or INdemo Aug 2017 #50

Jimmy Dore keeps saying, "If you run a fake Republican against a real Republican, voters will vote tclambert Aug 2017 #57

Jimmy Dore also promoted Hannity's Seth Rich CT and Alt-Right "Hillary has Parkinson's" CT emulatorloo Aug 2017 #78

Whatever else he's said or done, he's not wrong NCDem777 Aug 2017 #89

salazar is in that group. I remember when he threatened to punch a reporter. Sunlei Aug 2017 #53

They fear immigrants are diluting our "national identity". DLevine Aug 2017 #54

Jesus fucking christ -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2017 #71

No they don't. lapucelle Aug 2017 #79

Why should Democrats take seriously the concerns of racists DLevine Aug 2017 #91

http://newdemocracy.net/leaders/ SMC22307 Aug 2017 #80

Here, let me help you -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2017 #81

Yeah, but look at the "leaders." Salazar, many AAs... SMC22307 Aug 2017 #83

The problem with the "liberal wing" Dopers_Greed Aug 2017 #58

Memo to "centrists": It's redistricting, stupid DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #60

There's a lot of truth in your post riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #67

I Say NOTHING! Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #64

first they were the DLC SethH Aug 2017 #70

The site is dripping with "pragmatism"... SMC22307 Aug 2017 #84

They're anti-Howard Dean's 50-state strategy? SMC22307 Aug 2017 #86

Locking - this is analysis, as the Wash Post article marks it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #92