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76. Fine. They lied to her. You think they should tell her she was pregnant?

Thu Aug 17, 2017, 07:18 PM

Aug 2017

I mean forget about protecting the rape victim, the 10 year old. One must not lie, because lying is evil. Traumatizing a victim of incest and rape by telling her the 100% truth is ever so much better.

How terribly moral, sadistic as hell, but it's not a real person we're dealing with here, right? Just a little brown girl, one of "those" "backward" people whose parents clearly don't give a rats patoot about her emotional and mental well being after finding out exactly what happened to her, at the hands of her mother's brother right?

I do know what a lie of omission is, and it doesn't seem like the human part of the equation is at play here. As you just ignored the part of my post that addressed why you think it's 100% a great idea to tell a 10 year old 100% of everything, since not doing so means that one is being immoral and lying, per your definition.

Glad that's what's important here.

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Raped Indian girl, 10, Gives Birth [View all] JI7 Aug 2017 OP

This makes me physically ill. Laurian Aug 2017 #1

She didn't "endure" a pregnancy, she had no idea she was pregnant. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #65

... shenmue Aug 2017 #2

Poor little girl Bettie Aug 2017 #3

It remains to be seen if the girl and the baby she was forced to have are ehrnst Aug 2017 #4

They say she doesn't know what happened to her, but I guess we'll see how long that lasts. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #29

She's barely into puberty. We don't know what effect a pregnancy on her ehrnst Aug 2017 #63

Um... you do realize that they FOUND OUT when she was 30+ weeks along right? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #67

Yes, I did. Nonetheless, we won't know if she's "doing fine" until much later ehrnst Aug 2017 #93

So when the head of the team of doctors, consisting of 3 Ob/Gyns, an anesthesiologist Ninsianna Aug 2017 #100

As I said, there are impacts on her that will not likely be seen until later. ehrnst Aug 2017 #122

But why attack the doctors who were speaking of her medical condition, that they Ninsianna Aug 2017 #129

I'm attacking the patriarchal culture that exists everywhere ehrnst Aug 2017 #132

Did you read the actual article? LisaL Aug 2017 #90

I did read the article. I'm commenting on how we won't know if ehrnst Aug 2017 #92

terrible but Demonaut Aug 2017 #5

Did she deliver TNNurse Aug 2017 #6

OK, I went back and read the article. TNNurse Aug 2017 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Aug 2017 #53

How the hell would a cesearan do that exactly? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #62

So what exactly was the choice here? LisaL Aug 2017 #89

I don't believe it wasn't known. Wtf I expect is for India to stop allowing RAPE. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #91

Your belief isn't based on what is being reported, so I have no clue where it's coming from. LisaL Aug 2017 #96

Because we all know what we read and hear is always correct. I've been pregnant 4 times onecaliberal Aug 2017 #98

She is 10. LisaL Aug 2017 #102

Clearly not, she would know something is different. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #105

She thought she had stomach pains. LisaL Aug 2017 #106

Believe it.. whathehell Aug 2017 #124

Maybe you could save your rage for the scumbag who raped her whathehell Aug 2017 #101

Maybe you should stop pretending to know what I think I and feel. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Aug 2017 #108

Maybe pretending isn't needed when whathehell Aug 2017 #110

She was told lies because of her young age, that it was something else IronLionZion Aug 2017 #9

Unlikely. She'll have a tell tale scar on her abdomen and worse scars on her psyche Warpy Aug 2017 #26

Um, can we please express sympathy for this rape survivor without dipping into the Ninsianna Aug 2017 #30

WTF? They are giving the child away for adoption without even telling the mother she was pregnant? StevieM Aug 2017 #8

I doubt she possesses the maturity to make such decisions. She's a ten years old child. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #10

Yeah, I'll go ahead and second guess them. Being a birth mother is no walk in the park. StevieM Aug 2017 #11

No doubt she'll find out. They made the best decision they could... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #13

Really? It is THEIR decision? It's not HER decision? StevieM Aug 2017 #16

Yes. The parents made the decision for their child. It was their decision. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #19

Further Me. Aug 2017 #20

Parents in the U.S. cannot sign adoption papers for their minor children, although we certainly do StevieM Aug 2017 #27

Not Sure That Is So Me. Aug 2017 #52

I am sure the laws are different from state to state. But what you are referring to StevieM Aug 2017 #60

They Vary Slightly From State To State Me. Aug 2017 #64

No it was not their decision, at least not morally IMO. StevieM Aug 2017 #28

A ten year old is capable of feeling the loss of a child? Ilsa Aug 2017 #32

Yes, I believe a 10 year old is capable of feeling the loss of a child. (eom) StevieM Aug 2017 #33

When she has no idea she was pregnant or that she lost a child? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #43

That's an interesting question about this very unique story. StevieM Aug 2017 #46

That's a whole lot of assumptions you're making. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #68

I told you that I did read the article, as well as another one on the subject. StevieM Aug 2017 #69

Then explain why every post demonstrated a complete ignorance of simple facts? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #71

You got a lot wrong in your ad hominem post. I do not have the energy to respond to all of it. StevieM Aug 2017 #75

I made no ad hominem. That's simply not true. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #78

You can be sad. I am just glad that you acknowledged the baby as "her daughter." Indeed she is. StevieM Aug 2017 #80

I really am sad that that's what this is about for you. It's also her cousin Ninsianna Aug 2017 #83

I haven't said one single word about abortion. Not once. StevieM Aug 2017 #85

Um okay. I said you didn't say one single word about the RAPE of this little girl Ninsianna Aug 2017 #86

You absolutely did bring up abortion in the very post that I just replied to. StevieM Aug 2017 #87

Typo on my part, you were all over the damn place, I meant adoption. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #119

Once again, I referenced Georgia Tann and Franco EXCLUSIVELY in regards to your constantly StevieM Aug 2017 #123

I am deeply sad, so much privilege and so little education or undestanding Ninsianna Aug 2017 #118

Feelings and emotions are secondary in this case Xanana Aug 2017 #126

You "might" feel differently in the case of a 16 year old? StevieM Aug 2017 #36

If the 16 year old had knowledge of her pregnancy and knew there was a child to be Ninsianna Aug 2017 #45

Becoming a birth mother is not a medical decision. StevieM Aug 2017 #48

This is not about "becoming a birth mother" and making "life decisions" and Ninsianna Aug 2017 #56

I read the article as soon as a I first saw the post. You are the ones making the assumptions. StevieM Aug 2017 #66

I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #70

We are not going to convince each other. I brought up Fransisco Franco because his incarnation of StevieM Aug 2017 #72

I'm not tryin to convince you of anything other than the facts here. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #74

I mentioned Franco once, in response to your own unprovoked attack, to demonstrate that StevieM Aug 2017 #79

There was no attack and you keep going on about Franco, in response to Ninsianna Aug 2017 #117

Morally and ethically it WAS their decision to make... and they made it. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #77

It was NOT "THEIR decision" morally and ethically. It was the mother's decision, even if it had StevieM Aug 2017 #81

If you mean the 10 year old, she is a minor and thus too young to make LisaL Aug 2017 #107

can't compare to life in the US Xanana Aug 2017 #125

She's 10, and a rape victim who didn't know she was pregnant. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #31

A different article made it clear that the media was outside her house. StevieM Aug 2017 #34

+1 Me. Aug 2017 #21

"doing fine" geek tragedy Aug 2017 #12

You do know that was in reference to their medical and health status and that's the Ninsianna Aug 2017 #35

they forced a ten year old to carry a fetus for 9 months geek tragedy Aug 2017 #37

No, they didn't. They discovered she was pregnant when she was OVER 30 weeks pregnant Ninsianna Aug 2017 #47

They didn't just follow advice, they asked for an abortion and went to court over it. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #51

If you click onto the article, you'll learn that the tem of doctors advised against abortion. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #73

they forced her, end of story. Welcome to the dust bin. onecaliberal Aug 2017 #55

A dust bin of people that give a fuck about the rape victim and her health? Awesome place to be. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #61

How backwards of them to force a 10 year old who was raped by her uncle to give birth. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #49

Becuase risking her life against medical advice of a whole panel of doctors advising Ninsianna Aug 2017 #59

Excusing '"violent murder when it's done by white people" is an abberation whathehell Aug 2017 #111

Please look at history, it's literally been the rule and not an aberration. Not hyperbole. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #115

I know history. whathehell Aug 2017 #120

Then you know they were not aberrations. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #127

I know it is an abberation whathehell Aug 2017 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #14

Is no greater than the scale of abuse here. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #95

WTF? Ligyron Aug 2017 #15

The fetus was 32 weeks along. Abortion would have been legal at an earlier stage. (eom) StevieM Aug 2017 #17

She was told she had a stone in her stomach CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #18

Yeah, I probably should have... Ligyron Aug 2017 #22

Many should have CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #97

She was 10. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #39

Thanks for that info. Ligyron Aug 2017 #82

Thank you for the kind wishes. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #84

How horrifying. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #23

Um, the panel of doctors was what the court was relying on to make the decision. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #40

Thank you for the correction about the Dr.'s. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #44

They didn't lie to her. She had no idea she was pregnant. They did not tel her she was. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #50

It was a one hundred percent lie. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #57

Fine. They lied to her. You think they should tell her she was pregnant? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #76

As far as I can tell, nobody forbade her parents from telling her. LisaL Aug 2017 #88

I'm not sure how that discounts the lie aspect... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #94

What exactly would be the point of telling this 10 year old she is pregnant? LisaL Aug 2017 #104

I agree with you.. whathehell Aug 2017 #113

It:s just a thought, but we are talking about a 10year old child who was whathehell Aug 2017 #112

How terribly sad. And wicked. LeftishBrit Aug 2017 #24

In what way? Did you read the article? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Doitnow Aug 2017 #25

Why? What a truly ignorant thing to say. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #42

I agree with you about this incident.. whathehell Aug 2017 #114

But, no I made accusation sof racism toward those that expressed purely Ninsianna Aug 2017 #116

I'm sorry, but I see no "purely racist" things expressed in this thread whathehell Aug 2017 #121

Then I would suggest you open your eyes and read the bigotry and ignorance Ninsianna Aug 2017 #128

My eyes are wide open, so I would suggest that you re-read my post whathehell Aug 2017 #131

I'm most sad because... Mike Nelson Aug 2017 #54

I can't...I can't... Solly Mack Aug 2017 #58

So is the uncle actually going to get punished? Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #99

Reportedly he is in jail awaiting a trial. LisaL Aug 2017 #109

agree with the courts, 6,7, months pregnant is way to late for an abortion. I hope they relocate the Sunlei Aug 2017 #133