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91. What if that alt-righter's behavior is peaceful, should he/she still be physically assaulted?

Reply to Coventina (Reply #83)

Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:26 PM

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Nancy Pelosi Releases a Statement Condemning Antifa Violence in Berkeley [View all] DonViejo Aug 2017 OP

Antifa is going to get mad Not Ruth Aug 2017 #1

who cares? Loki Liesmith Aug 2017 #7

Both sides......many sides. vi5 Aug 2017 #2

If you want ANY credibility leftynyc Aug 2017 #3

It gives credibility to the false equivalency..... vi5 Aug 2017 #4

Do you not understand leftynyc Aug 2017 #5

We are in this current shit state due to "both sides-ism" vi5 Aug 2017 #9

You're absolutely right maxrandb Aug 2017 #64

We are in this current shit state due to "both sides-ism" LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #102

Legitimizing violence as a political tactic Loki Liesmith Aug 2017 #8

It's not legitimizing anything.... vi5 Aug 2017 #10

Not so fast in demonizing Pelosi. The Bernie Sanders' backed Berkeley mayor wants R B Garr Aug 2017 #18

I don't give a shit who Bernie Sanders backed... vi5 Aug 2017 #19

Punching down? Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2017 #105

'Bernie Sanders backed Berkeley mayor' melman Aug 2017 #61

lol Google lol R B Garr Aug 2017 #69

Not the point obviously melman Aug 2017 #99

Sure it was. I see you don't mind that Pelosi is gratuitously and entirely R B Garr Aug 2017 #103

commenting on them does nothing but legitimize the notion that they are connected to "our side" melman Aug 2017 #100

This such garbage. tymorial Aug 2017 #28

So a few weeks ago we were aghast at Trump... vi5 Aug 2017 #30

She also, carefully, said, "those CALLING themselves Antifa". LisaM Aug 2017 #63

Antifa are thugs, not hippies nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #36

So you agree with Trump.... vi5 Aug 2017 #38

No, antifa thugs are not as bad as Nazi thugs. But they are still thugs. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #40

You've clearly never been protected or saved from one of these "thugs". vi5 Aug 2017 #43

How do you feel about the antifa types who just beat the shit out of unarmed alt-righters, or who geek tragedy Aug 2017 #52

The same way I feel about.... vi5 Aug 2017 #85

Are the mob beatings of alt-righters and the occasional journalist (a) the work of a few bad apples geek tragedy Aug 2017 #87

Hmmmm...wow you are right. vi5 Aug 2017 #89

It is analytically incorrect to say one can't criticize both without recognizing geek tragedy Aug 2017 #93

Why would you think antifa is beating the shit out of alt-righters? Jazzgirl Aug 2017 #107

We? AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #6

Exactly. It's not about actions it's about power and influence. vi5 Aug 2017 #11

then I'd put antifa and neo nazi AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #20

Explain how antifa and neo nazis are the same? vi5 Aug 2017 #21

There are anti-democratic, totalitarian elements within the broad antifa movement which are... Marengo Aug 2017 #76

"elements within the broad" vi5 Aug 2017 #82

That's exactly what the racist right wants you to do. Jazzgirl Aug 2017 #109

Sorry. I call bullshit. Jazzgirl Aug 2017 #108

Sorry Nancy, but I don't make nice with Nazis. Coventina Aug 2017 #12

Do you consider the military and police to be fascists? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #13

What an odd question. No, if they are doing their sworn duty and not abusing their power. Coventina Aug 2017 #14

How does one know if they are part of the fascist state? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #15

Fascist states are proudly so, it's not hard to identify them. Coventina Aug 2017 #16

Can I get a list? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #17

Um....google is your friend, but you can start here: Coventina Aug 2017 #22

Based on that list, Kenya is the only fascist state Not Ruth Aug 2017 #23

I have no idea what your point is. Coventina Aug 2017 #24

You said that fascist states are easy to identify, but you are unable to identify any Not Ruth Aug 2017 #25

What on earth are you talking about? Coventina Aug 2017 #26

Finally WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2017 #27

Those "antifa" wryter2000 Aug 2017 #29

I won't hold my breath waiting for the day that pelosi attends a The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #31

The false equivalency reeks. LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #32

Thank you. I've had it up to here with the "whataboutism" and false equivalencies Coventina Aug 2017 #33

Antifa aren't brave soldiers, they're thugs hiding behind masks who punch geek tragedy Aug 2017 #35

My WW2 Veteran Grandfather disagrees. n/t Coventina Aug 2017 #37

My WW2 grandfather never hid behind a mask when he killed people in Okinawa. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #39

"Young white men"? Uh, you might want to check that stereotype with the antifa members Coventina Aug 2017 #42

Might want to check it with the arrest records of antifa members nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #50

Yes, well, we all know the police don't profile at all.... Coventina Aug 2017 #51

how does one profile people wearing masks? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #53

We clearly have an unbridgeable difference of opinion so I'll just say this: Coventina Aug 2017 #56

A small number probably are there just for that LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #44

Thank you...... vi5 Aug 2017 #45

No kidding. Sometimes I think this site should be called "Democratic Garden and Tea Party" Coventina Aug 2017 #46

And again.... vi5 Aug 2017 #48

It seems weird that people want to get rid of this idea of antifa but not suggest some sort of... ck4829 Aug 2017 #77

We have a host of Neville Chamberlains on this board, apparently. Coventina Aug 2017 #79

Street battles make fascism more likely, not less. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #49

So we tolerate Nazis becauase one is in the White House? Coventina Aug 2017 #54

There is a vast amount of space between "tolerate" and "beat the shit out of." geek tragedy Aug 2017 #55

Hahahaha! If Nazis could be eradicated through politics we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Coventina Aug 2017 #57

Political views are never "eradicated" but they can be marginalized and defeated. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #58

Is being a non-Nazi white racist not as bad? Coventina Aug 2017 #59

Almost all white people in the USA are some kind of racist. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #60

Who said anything about a war against white people? Coventina Aug 2017 #62

you said there was no distinction between run of the mill white racists and Nazi exterminationists geek tragedy Aug 2017 #65

So now you're defending white nationalists? Coventina Aug 2017 #66

no, I said there's a wide and vast spectrum of racist beliefs geek tragedy Aug 2017 #68

Racism in the home, while horrible and evil is not my issue. Coventina Aug 2017 #70

a lot of people seem to ignore the "necessary" part of the "any means necessary" geek tragedy Aug 2017 #71

You have your opinion and I have mine. Coventina Aug 2017 #72

Lots of people who engage in preemptive violence claim it's necessary geek tragedy Aug 2017 #73

Antifa does not engage in preemptive violence. Coventina Aug 2017 #74

So we're down to the No True Scotsman defense? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #75

Like I said, you have your opinion and I have mine. Coventina Aug 2017 #78

What part of that video was ambiguous? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #81

I can't watch the video right now. I just read the article. Coventina Aug 2017 #83

Be careful not to stare into the abyss, lest it stare into you. nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #84

We've seen the abyss before....and it came from Nazis and their ilk. Coventina Aug 2017 #88

What if that alt-righter's behavior is peaceful, should he/she still be physically assaulted? Marengo Aug 2017 #91

Hahahaha! Peaceful alt-righter! Hahahahaha! Coventina Aug 2017 #94

I file Antifa along with PETA... Dave Starsky Aug 2017 #47

Good. Thugs should always be condemned nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #34

If by "antifa" she means Retrograde Aug 2017 #41

We have to make a choice. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #67

How many were hurt? -nt Bradical79 Aug 2017 #80

Bloods, Crips, Antifa, note that this is the exact same stuff they did to the Juggalos Not Ruth Aug 2017 #86

I can't believe they considered ICP fans a gang JonLP24 Aug 2017 #92

This has nothing to do with Antifa, but posted just to show the variety of political beliefs Not Ruth Aug 2017 #90

How many deaths are attributed to Antifa? tenderfoot Aug 2017 #95

thankyou LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #96

Your standards are a bit low for civilized behavior Not Ruth Aug 2017 #97

Of course, we might have had some trouble... regnaD kciN Aug 2017 #101

Yes, exactly! nt Raine Aug 2017 #98

The link in the very first sentence contradicts the "peaceful Trump supporters" assertion maxsolomon Aug 2017 #104

Can't very well get in the way of Dems getting them "bipartisan" bonafides... vi5 Aug 2017 #106