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32. Good God in Butter is this a stupid move

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Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:29 PM

Sep 2017

I wonder if there is Russia money behind this?

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Progressive group launches first ad campaign against Dem [View all] DonViejo Sep 2017 OP

Good. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #1

What specific collusion has taken place? yardwork Sep 2017 #34

Him and the companies giving him money Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #41

Oh for God's sake. Some of you people live in a fantasy world. yardwork Sep 2017 #49

Guess you haven't heard him criticizing Dems for trying to redistribute wealth... brush Sep 2017 #52

I haven't heard that. Got a link? yardwork Sep 2017 #61

Right because redistributing wealth is so popular with the masses...we are at best a center left Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #69

For the third time, I'm asking for evidence that he actually said that. yardwork Sep 2017 #80

And supporting the Trump tax plan to give more money to billionaires and take from the poor Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #55

Show me evidence of that support. Be specific and cite a source. yardwork Sep 2017 #60

It's right there in the OP Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #62

I see nothing but vague accusations and innuendo. yardwork Sep 2017 #64

His contributors would all make money from a corporate tax break. Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #65

These folks are going to cost us a chance at the House...time we considered these group hostile Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #68

Their intent is obvious: to keep Republicans in power. yardwork Sep 2017 #81

By there fruits...they shall be known...still true today. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #84

Right because a GOP type would vote with us for sure. Ryan is in a red state like Manchin. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #67

The tax reform plan hasn't been announced in detail yet.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #2

Yeah, no "real" plan there, but we know what Repubs want... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #3

Well, he shouldn't side with Republicans trying to fleece his constituents if he doesn't want this. Squinch Sep 2017 #4

Ryan was the progressive's "hero" when he was challenging Nancy Pelosi for her leadership roll, now still_one Sep 2017 #5

Excellent points! eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2017 #8

Agreed. Why don't these progressives groups put their money toward running ads against the Rethugs pnwmom Sep 2017 #14

I also agree, And I donate to move on. Hes not perfect but hes a "D" Old Vet Sep 2017 #45

I just stopped donating to move on...when they attack Democrats when the GOP owns it all, they have Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #70

They are running anti-repug ads in Iowa. SharonClark Sep 2017 #46

I'm with you. n/t sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #16

This part of our party has become completely toxic. Best option is to ignore them as much as stevenleser Sep 2017 #18

Didn't want to start a new thread. sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #20

After 2016, does Bryce really think that a Sarandon endorsement helps him in a conservative still_one Sep 2017 #22

When I saw her name, I uttered, "OH no you don't". sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #56

I don't recall things being this wacko still_one Sep 2017 #58

Stamp! n/t moonscape Sep 2017 #43

This is my concern, too. ANY Dem is better than a Republican. They are NOT the same. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #50

Fickle bunch. ucrdem Sep 2017 #6

I have better things to do with my money wryter2000 Sep 2017 #7

The logic fail is staggering. ucrdem Sep 2017 #59

Personally tiredtoo Sep 2017 #9

This goes beyond ... zentrum Sep 2017 #11

They are basing this on a distorted republican ad which took Ryan's words out of context. still_one Sep 2017 #25

Well, that does sound better... zentrum Sep 2017 #37

I am not saying that Democrats, or anyone for that matter, shouldn't critisize their representatives still_one Sep 2017 #42

I hear you. zentrum Sep 2017 #48

Dumb, dumb, dumb idea. They should be using that money to attack Republicans, who differ pnwmom Sep 2017 #15

The tax reform zentrum Sep 2017 #10

Lol... if Our Revolution had been part of this effort KTM Sep 2017 #12

Sounds good to me Victor_c3 Sep 2017 #13

It makes no sense to attack the only Democrat when the Rethug in the race is far worse. pnwmom Sep 2017 #17

I'm sick of having to settle for the lesser of two evils Victor_c3 Sep 2017 #40

GET REAL. That's the attitude that gave us DT. No thanks. It was insane for any voter to think pnwmom Sep 2017 #44

Sorry, I will take a Democrat any time over a GOP ...Move On is dead to me as is Our revolution. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #71

Well, if this guy is supporting massive new tax cuts for rich people, then PatrickforO Sep 2017 #19

or maybe just surrender the seat to a Republican? delisen Sep 2017 #28

He is a Democrat...and way better than any Gop type. I live in Ohio and I wish Move on would go fuck Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #72

Did anyone actually watch the ad? progressoid Sep 2017 #21

NO, it isn't just asking to contact him about his support for the bill. It starts off attacking still_one Sep 2017 #23

Well, he IS supporting a republican bill. progressoid Sep 2017 #31

Agree SharonClark Sep 2017 #47

There is not bill. I think they will get their tax cut through...no matter what. So what good would Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #73

As a long-time Ohio Dem . . FairWinds Sep 2017 #24

Thank you. zentrum Sep 2017 #38

So you live in Ohio...and you think the guy running against Ryan can win Trumbull county? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #74

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Sep 2017 #26

And so it begins. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #27

It began before the November election sarisataka Sep 2017 #30

And we will probably lose seats as a result and groups like Move On and Our Revolution will Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #79

What is "purity"? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #35

You would think after the 16 election, some would understand the stakes....but no, Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #75

This is idiotic. Tim Ryan is a good rep. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #29

Yes he is. He is my rep. and really worked hard to help Delphi workers who were screwed out of their Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #76

Good God in Butter is this a stupid move Botany Sep 2017 #32

Of course there is Russian money behind this. Goal is to keep Democrats in the minority. yardwork Sep 2017 #33

WTF? Attacking the Dem running will only guarantee a GOP victory. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #36

Million times better? jl_theprofessor Sep 2017 #51

Yes. Ask a DACA recipient. Ask a teen incest victim who needs an abortion. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #54

Idiotic! Tumbulu Sep 2017 #39

This is how you get people who believe that both parties are the same. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #53

GOP's only hope of retaining Congress will be if the anti-Trump vote gets split. McCamy Taylor Sep 2017 #57

Congress is still gerrymandered. It is a heavy lift and we sure as hell don't need Move On Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author beachjustice Sep 2017 #63

WE WON'T WIN ANY ELECTIONS IF WE'RE JUST WATERED DOWN REPUBLICANS! beachjustice Sep 2017 #66

Really... you really think a hard left candidate will win WVA...or Trumbull county Ohio? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #78

You might be right, but it's conceivable centrist candidates will fail even harder in the long-term beachjustice Sep 2017 #82

Democrats need to have a coherent brand and set of policies they support, not just be yurbud Sep 2017 #83