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Showing Original Post only (View all)Shooter, Wade Page, was Army vet, white supremacist [View all]
Last edited Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:11 PM - Edit history (4)
Source: Journal Sentinel
The shooter in the deadly attack Sunday at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek was identified as Wade Michael Page, 40, sources familiar with the shooting investigation said Monday.
He served in the Army for several years and was assigned to psychological operations, or PsyOps, according to the sources.
He is no longer in the Army.
The Southern Law Poverty Center, a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, reported Monday that Page was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band known as End Apathy.
Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-wade-page-was-army-vet-white-supremacist-856cn28-165123946.html
Gunman in Sikh temple shooting named, linked to racist groups
U.S. military sources said Page had been discharged from the Army in 1998 for "patterns of misconduct" and had been cited for being drunk on duty.
Page had served in the military for six years but was never posted overseas. He was a psychological operations specialist and missile repairman who was last stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, the sources said.
In June 1998 he was disciplined for being drunk on duty and had his rank reduced to specialist from sergeant. He was not eligible to re-enlist.
more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/06/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-idUSBRE8740FP20120806
from Ian David's post in GD:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021080899
Bulletin: Alleged Sikh Temple Shooter Former Member of Skinhead Band
The man who allegedly murdered six people at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee yesterday, identified in media reports as Wade Michael Page, was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.
In 2010, Page, then the leader of the band End Apathy, gave an interview to the white supremacist website Label 56. He said that when he started the band in 2005, its name reflected his wish to figure out how to end peoples apathetic ways and start moving forward. I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back, Page said. Later, he added, The inspiration was based on frustration that we have the potential to accomplish so much more as individuals and a society in whole. He did not discuss violence in the interview.
Page told the website that he had been a part of the white power music scene since 2000, when he left his native Colorado on a motorcycle. He attended white power concerts in Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia and Colorado. At various times, he said, he also played in the hate rock bands Youngland (2001-2003), Celtic Warrior, Radikahl, Max Resist, Intimidation One, Aggressive Force and Blue Eyed Devils. End Apathy, he said, included Brent on bass and Ozzie on drums; the men were former members of Definite Hate and another band, 13 Knots.
In 2000, the Southern Poverty Law Center has found that Page also attempted to purchase goods from the neo-Nazi National Alliance, then Americas most important hate group.
More:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/06/bulletin-alleged-sikh-temple-shooter-member-of-neo-nazi-group/
LIVE Press Conference with ATF and FBI 11:00 ET
http://www.channel3000.com/LIVE-STREAMING-News-conference-on-Wisconsin-Sikh-temple-shooting/-/1656/15982164/-/l8lru4/-/index.html
Update at 11:40 a.m. ET. "Person Of Interest ... Showed Up At The Scene":
Asked about the "person of interest" who authorities want to speak with, Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards just said that "he's an individual who showed up at the scene after the shooting." Some officers at the scene though "this guy looks suspicious" but he left the area before authorities could speak with him.
Also at the news briefing, officials just said that the gun used by the shooter was purchased legally.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/08/06/158187820/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-white-man-in-his-40s

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Unfortunately, Page was not drummed out of the military for being a white supremacist.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#164
A sick twisted mind and a bunch of guns -- they all go together and produce what we have here.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#25
what we are saying is that this nation is flooded with guns and that guns make it easy
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#128
It's a deadly tool chosen by an overwhelming number of killers, responsible for tens of thousands
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#97
That's what gun culture would have said about Zimmerman, Holmes, Loughner, Stawicki, etc., right
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#89
I'm not "pretending" -- you are like many pro-gunners who appear when tragedies like this occur to
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#104
Would help if you'd stop saying you are "not pro-gun" when all your posts indicate otherwise.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#127
If there were guitars manufactured to kill people and appeal to their baser instincts -- Yes.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#99
gun was purchased legally but didn't say if Page was the person that purchased the gun
maddezmom
Aug 2012
#39
I've heard that his discharge from the military was something other than honorable
slackmaster
Aug 2012
#76
I think the Army might have some explaining to do about how someone this disturbed was a candidate
Tanuki
Aug 2012
#4
He could have been the skivvie stacker for the Psyops team. Without his record, we know nothing.
MADem
Aug 2012
#20
The Army recruited a white supremacist to serve in their Psychological Operations? Terrific.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#12
He was still recruited into PsyOps. Explain that. Maybe it's a feature not a bug.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#18
Stating facts is not broadbrushing. He was recuited into the Army's PsyOps division.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#26
This is a broadbrush implication: He was still recruited into PsyOps. Explain that. Maybe it's a
MADem
Aug 2012
#29
The U.S. military has acknowledged that it has a problem with white supremacists in its ranks.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#30
Make up your mind. First it's a "feature" they recruit for, then it's a "problem?"
MADem
Aug 2012
#38
We don't know what he did in PsyOps from 1992 to 1998. We can speculate that it was benign, but why?
yardwork
Aug 2012
#54
Oh, come off it. He had a "pattern of misconduct" and was drunk on duty and got busted for it.
MADem
Aug 2012
#68
I think it's a bit unfair to characterize this guy as an Army vet--he was kicked out of the Army,
MADem
Aug 2012
#15
Gay people commonly got "general" discharges....if the commander authorizing the discharge was not
MADem
Aug 2012
#83
Ruby--I understand you have some expertise with SPLC on this topic, could you expound?
MADem
Aug 2012
#84
Paranoia: Expect a wave of conspiracy stuff, based on the defunct PsyOps connection.
patrice
Aug 2012
#74
I can guess how that might be a natural progression in that environment. Recall also how
patrice
Aug 2012
#116
At least there is one less of these miserable bastards to worry about.
The_Casual_Observer
Aug 2012
#92
Yep. We're all supposed to "consider" gun rights but IGNORE the basic premise of gun advocacy:
patrice
Aug 2012
#117
Why can't the reasons for his discharge preclude him from being allowed to purchase arms?
IndyJones
Aug 2012
#149
True, but I thought I read that he was discharged because of behavior issues.
IndyJones
Aug 2012
#151
Yes. "Pattern of misconduct" that culminated in a reduction in rank for being drunk on duty.
MADem
Aug 2012
#154
He did a hitch in the Army in the distant 1990s, odd that it is used so much as a vital description.
braddy
Aug 2012
#153
Peacetime military....a totally different world. The war back then was the Cold War. nt
MADem
Aug 2012
#155
Wade Michael Page: Excessive drinking cost Sikh temple shooter his military career, civilian job
maddezmom
Aug 2012
#157