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karynnj

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45. Before 2004, in the wake of 2003, Jimmy Carter was asked if he could observe the US election
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:16 AM
Sep 2017

Last edited Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)

His answer then was that the way that most states ran the election did not meet the basic standards they required in third world nations. We need a system where if something is questioned there is a way to go back to the ballots cast.

One question that would have to be answered is whether the entire country would have to be recounted if one state - like Florida 2000 looked weird. As it was, there were many other problems with Florida - notably the felons list that included black NON FELONS. In fact, the felons list, created by a Texas company hired by Katherine Harris, who was part of B/C and worked for Jeb Bush itself was a clear example of cheating -- and one county alerted the state that it had errors before the election.

Going to a national popular vote would completely change elections. Candidates would not go to every moderate size town in Ohio and ignore LA, NYC and Boston. This would totally advantage us. Imagine huge campaign rallies in Central Park, the Boston Commons etc. It would take some power from the media as more people would actually see the candidate in person. (I realized how much the media filtered when people here and on DU were stunned that the Kerrys wrote a book on the environment and did a book tour in 2007. Yet, having watched the campaign on CSPAN, I saw the environment/climate change/clean energy segment of his speech in every speech. )

Think of people - in every election - who spoke of having the liberty to cast a "protest" vote or not vote because their state was dark blue. Now, their vote matters as much as that of a currently highly courted swing state vote. I never got the point of Republicans who showed a map of the country showing the counties in which they got the majority. They did cover the map red, but they colored a lot of land where almost no one lived. The country is a country of PEOPLE, not acres of land.



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Clizzia (sp) is a shit stirring jerk, who owes us all an apology. bettyellen Sep 2017 #1
yes he does. onenote Sep 2017 #17
"Because there is no mechanism." --- That's the thing. Sad but true. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #2
Unlike Dump, she respects the Constitution NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #3
Watching the 2nd video... it made me cry... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #4
I started reading her book MontanaMama Sep 2017 #8
The book is remarkable and will help in the healing. It also helps gear us up to make sure doesn't Justice Sep 2017 #39
Oh dear .. ananda Sep 2017 #5
No one got to Hillary. She's just classy and abides by the Constitution. leftofcool Sep 2017 #7
I was referring to the news a couple of days ago .. ananda Sep 2017 #9
Except that isn't what she said. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2017 #14
You're referring to a lie. onenote Sep 2017 #18
Obviously, yes... I was with Hillary when she said she wouldn't "rule out" challenging InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #27
when did say she wouldn't rule out "challenging" Trump's presidency? onenote Sep 2017 #41
This... Hillary's own words: InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #42
And here are the rest of Hillary's words onenote Sep 2017 #46
Somebody got to her and changed her mind. ananda Sep 2017 #47
Classy as always leftofcool Sep 2017 #6
I knew she was smart... sarisataka Sep 2017 #10
Clintons statements on legitimacy are revolutionary. delisen Sep 2017 #11
If it were to happen (and it won't) FakeNoose Sep 2017 #20
They can't zipplewrath Sep 2017 #23
Thanks FakeNoose Sep 2017 #32
Thank you for spelling all of this out karynnj Sep 2017 #43
It's what worries me about a popular vote zipplewrath Sep 2017 #44
Before 2004, in the wake of 2003, Jimmy Carter was asked if he could observe the US election karynnj Sep 2017 #45
There were talks and 💰 donations.. FarPoint Sep 2017 #12
Express our will at the ballot box? padfun Sep 2017 #13
"I truly don't believe my vote counts anymore." So you'll be staying home then? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #15
Unfortunate broadcaster90210 Sep 2017 #16
I see why some people might feel that way, but, if we give up and give in, the enemy wins for sure. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #28
I'd be happy to see the U.S. set a precedent Marthe48 Sep 2017 #19
So much fake news around ... Odoreida Sep 2017 #21
The official recourse for contesting the election is the electoral college. n/t Calista241 Sep 2017 #22
Doesn't Matter One Bit How You Win....JUST WIN SoCalMusicLover Sep 2017 #24
So I guess the elections in 2008 and 2012 were worthless onenote Sep 2017 #25
By All Means Vote SoCalMusicLover Sep 2017 #30
She's wrong because I sure am talking about it. Nt joeybee12 Sep 2017 #26
Right. A lot of folks are talking about. And concluding there isn't anyway to do it onenote Sep 2017 #35
Changing my screen name to Nobody. C_U_L8R Sep 2017 #29
The rest of US will contest the election as soon as the whole truth is known. democratisphere Sep 2017 #31
Oh, I hope so! lunamagica Sep 2017 #33
and exactly how do the "rest of us" plan on "contesting" the election? onenote Sep 2017 #34
THE FORCE will be with US. democratisphere Sep 2017 #36
Got it. It's science fiction. onenote Sep 2017 #37
We're already living science fiction. democratisphere Sep 2017 #38
There is nothing to contest. She had the election won and then Comey cancelled it and StevieM Sep 2017 #40
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