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jmowreader

(53,238 posts)
38. The law is a lot bigger than you think it is
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 03:09 PM
Sep 2017

I am a very vocal anti-sovereign citizen person.

What ye need to know about Sovereign Citizens: among other tripe, they believe the US is run by maritime law...and because sovereign citizens are on the land they aren't subject to the law of the sea. It's not; continue following along. To denounce their stupid fucking belief system in a rational manner I started researching maritime law, and came upon the Jones Act. So I read it.

One HUGE reason the Republicans want to repeal the Jones Act is its protection of sailors' rights. We seem to be alone in this world in thinking a sailor has no duty to ship in an unfit vessel, but the Jones Act allows American sailors to sue their employers over unsafe equipment.

The problem with the Jones Act is it was written in an era when America's merchant fleet was the pride of the world, and there is quite a bit of protectionism in it - protectionism that isn't really workable now that most ships are foreign-flagged. If we could tone down the protectionism...say, require military cargo to travel in US-flagged ships, but place no restriction on their nation of construction (because, thanks to Republicanism, new merchant ships come from Asia)...and align the requirements of the law with the reality of the shipping industry as it now stands, it would be a real good law.

Having said that, the party our president is in loves to do this:

...so, between Protectionism Gone Wild and The Law of the Jungle, I think I'll side with the former and want the law kept as it is.

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Good! whathehell Sep 2017 #1
Flip-flop? keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #2
Fortunately, people change their/our minds. elleng Sep 2017 #32
Right wingers disparaged it greatly some years back... keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #35
Yes they did. I don't encourage them elleng Sep 2017 #36
He only changed his mind because Hillary was shredding his ass Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #40
Took long enough dhol82 Sep 2017 #3
EIGHT FREAKING DAYS! How many people have died in those eight days? Of course.... George II Sep 2017 #4
he had more important things to attend to rurallib Sep 2017 #7
"I think I have been enraged more in the past 9 months than in the rest of my life in total." Amimnoch Sep 2017 #25
Why does the Act exist? PJMcK Sep 2017 #5
They suspended it lickety-split for Texas & Florida. How do the demographics compare with P. Rico? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #6
White southern republicans. Enough said. George II Sep 2017 #8
Texas and Florida have plenty of Latinos and African-Americans IronLionZion Sep 2017 #18
If Texas had been as devastated as P. Rico & aid as slow there would have been more looting. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #27
It exists to create business for American shipping companies FakeNoose Sep 2017 #11
Sooo, what's the difference between this "arrangement" and organized crime ? King_Klonopin Sep 2017 #29
Sounds about right FakeNoose Sep 2017 #34
the text of the act melm00se Sep 2017 #12
Too bad they don't also think health care and social services are necessary to the Ligyron Sep 2017 #21
this was originally drafted in melm00se Sep 2017 #26
I didn't know the vote history. The final vote was to agree on the conference report on H.R. 10378 24601 Sep 2017 #37
The highlights atreides1 Sep 2017 #15
Thanks for the information PJMcK Sep 2017 #20
The law is a lot bigger than you think it is jmowreader Sep 2017 #38
He knows his poll numbers will go down if did not waive this ACT. riversedge Sep 2017 #9
10 days? ffs. they will be rebuilding for months. mopinko Sep 2017 #10
Finally! sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #13
10 DAYS folks, it's ONLY for 10 DAYS.... that's a drop in the bucket groundloop Sep 2017 #14
Too little, too late, too typical. El Mimbreno Sep 2017 #16
Plus I read that the hospital ship will not leave port until tomorrow. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #30
The Jones Act; supported by Republicans...so much rateyes Sep 2017 #17
maybe this isn't donnie's katrina, maybe it's his benghazi unblock Sep 2017 #19
Many of the morans also blame the Katrina disaster on Obama. Ligyron Sep 2017 #22
Finally. Why was this even a tough call for him? nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #23
Insufficient! lark Sep 2017 #24
Oh come on, I wouldn't go THAT far jmowreader Sep 2017 #39
I would! lark Sep 2017 #41
You gotta wonder, did he figure out a way to profit from it? BarbaRosa Sep 2017 #28
Other posters have postulated a "shock doctrine" takover of the whole damn island King_Klonopin Sep 2017 #31
Yeah Gothmog Sep 2017 #33
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