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slackmaster

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28. My perspective on that is a little different because my parents were getting hit with ridiculous...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:28 PM
Aug 2012

...increases in the property tax they owed on our family home several years in a row.

Their San Diego County property tax assessment for 1977-78 was more than 10 times what it had been just 10 years earlier.

The house had about quintupled in assessed value since 1966, and the county had doubled the property tax rate.

The increase in value was due to market conditions totally beyond my parents' control, and there was no available avenue of appeal for unconscionable increases in property tax bills. The county was systematically soaking neighborhoods that happened to be popular with home buyers - Our home happened to be less than a mile from the rapidly expanding UC San Diego campus where my mom worked for many years after my father died unexpectedly. My stepfather, whom she married two years after buying the house on her own, had his income severely reduced by a nasty divorce from his first wife, with huge alimony and child support payments which he paid faithfully.

The property tax bills plus rapid inflation of basic commodities like food had made it impossible for my parents to run the family budget. At one point after my stepfather was laid off of his job, they were in real danger of losing the house. Fortunately my stepfather got his job back, but it was a very close call.

My mom was an Eisenhower Republican, dad was a New Deal Democrat. They often found themselves cancelling out each others' votes, but not on Proposition 13. I was 20 years old at the time, and I voted for it as well.

The hidden "gotcha" that few people saw was that the tax rate and increase caps that were quite reasonable for residential property also apply to commercial parcels, which through some sleight-of-hand moves that are perfectly legal can appear to be owned by the same party as they are transferred through an unlimited number of business entities.

Everyone wants what taxes pay for but no one wants to pay taxes.

I'm sick of the arrogance of people who say things like this in regard to the valuable protection Proposition 13's limits on residential property assessments provide to homeowners. If you weren't being taxed out of house and home by your county assessor because you weren't a homeowner, you were either a dependent of someone who was, or you were a renter and the outrageous property tax bills were being passed down to you anyway.

The out-of-control assessments of the mid- to late-1970s hurt a lot of people. Proposition 13 fixed that. Property taxes have always been collected by counties and have NEVER appeared on the income side of the state's budget as a specific line item. Even before Proposition 13 more than half of the state's revenue came from personal income taxes, followed by sales taxes and corporate taxes.

The ignorance about this issue is not surprising considering the constant barrage of simplistic anti-homeowner propaganda that gets spewed on the Internet. Proposition 13 is NOT the main cause of the state's financial problems. Not even close.

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Hey Mitt, no blame for the republican controlled congress for the economy? Wheres the honesty Mitt? cstanleytech Aug 2012 #1
and maybe if California wasn't a tax donor state to their ne'er do well Red State cousins.. .. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author cyclezealot Aug 2012 #20
That does elevate xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #40
Yet, California is still the eighth largest economy in the WORLD! Cleita Aug 2012 #2
Hey Mitt it was Arnold and Enron, both repug creations that damaged our state. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #3
it was Arnold and Enron, AlbertCat Aug 2012 #8
He also got us deeper in debt by cutting registration fees, even though he was well aware of our still_one Aug 2012 #19
Leave our state alone Mittwit! goclark Aug 2012 #42
".....or like California — just kidding about that one, in some ways," yellowcanine Aug 2012 #4
You nailed it DionDem Aug 2012 #22
As a native Californian... orwell Aug 2012 #5
As a 50-year Californian I find it a bit odd that a native would be under the impression... slackmaster Aug 2012 #10
Prop 13 ruined this State and jaysunb Aug 2012 #21
jaysnub: As a Californian, I totally agree with you. So far, all efforts to LoisB Aug 2012 #24
My perspective on that is a little different because my parents were getting hit with ridiculous... slackmaster Aug 2012 #28
Thanks for your post CountAllVotes Aug 2012 #33
You're welcome! My property taxes go up every year too, in a PREDICTABLE way thanks to Prop. 13. slackmaster Aug 2012 #34
What Prop 13 IS doing is hamstringing local governments KamaAina Aug 2012 #37
Great post. I totally agree. Also sick of the sweet property tax deals that are made to businesses IndyJones Aug 2012 #43
another native californian here shanti Aug 2012 #35
Today, Romney also echoed his lies about Obama and welfare alp227 Aug 2012 #6
Yet another group MittWit has alienated . . . fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #7
Do you think Missycim Aug 2012 #11
Not a chance in hell he will win or even come close to winning CA. IndyJones Aug 2012 #44
No, but Romney's comments won't help other Republicans running in California this fall. Good. yardwork Aug 2012 #46
Fuck you, Mittens. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #9
Eff you! Iliyah Aug 2012 #12
It happens on the National level and bayareaboy Aug 2012 #16
buuut you own an 11 million dollar beach home in that hell-hole? progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #13
Well Mitt You Cheated on Your Taxes dynasaw Aug 2012 #15
Nothing To See Here - Move Right Along otohara Aug 2012 #26
ACTUALLY the terminator who's great at acting decided to push the Greece thing on California PatrynXX Aug 2012 #17
What's he got to say about Mississippi? Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #18
In May nineteen50 Aug 2012 #23
Gawd I hate this asshole! SoapBox Aug 2012 #25
Well, they both produce some pretty good extra virgin olive oil, so I guess I'd say, smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #27
I believe that some of our problem is poliltical, the rest is structural Big_Mike Aug 2012 #29
When Meg Whitman said California should be more like Texas itsrobert Aug 2012 #30
That's Not Very Smart Of Romney DallasNE Aug 2012 #31
Romney sees California as a lost cause. It makes a perfect straw target for him. slackmaster Aug 2012 #32
Actually, he has a point KamaAina Aug 2012 #36
Funny, in a way Hydra Aug 2012 #39
Exactly! IndyJones Aug 2012 #45
I guess Romney's given up on CA's electoral votes. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #38
If Greece had one of the largest economies in Europe and was a net exporter of tax dollars Codeine Aug 2012 #41
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