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58. It was stolen, again, in various ways, but there were still

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Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:51 PM

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Clinton: It's My Fault Trump is President [View all] DonViejo Oct 2017 OP

I don't buy it. We can't have all of the following at once NRaleighLiberal Oct 2017 #1

I agree there's so much we don't know, and may never know about how they rigged this election YOHABLO Oct 2017 #5

I continue to think we just have an awful lot of people who won't - can't "go there" NRaleighLiberal Oct 2017 #6

Yes, you can louis c Oct 2017 #7

They are all factors, but one caused the loss - the hacking. period. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2017 #12

But all of the rest got it close enough to hack. n/t Beartracks Oct 2017 #39

I now believe all the Twitter and FB was more to make the race look closer so people would more bettyellen Oct 2017 #50

Hmm. Like camouflage. n/t Beartracks Oct 2017 #68

Well theycreated a culture war with a whole lot of fake soldiers- enough to bettyellen Oct 2017 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #54

If the votes were actually hacked ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #62

Conspiracy Theories? SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #88

that's really not fair Brainstormy Oct 2017 #103

Not saying they didn't hack votes, but hacking Dem voter rolls were a huge part bigbrother05 Oct 2017 #102

That would be absolutely the wrong thing to do. A microscopic investigation of the past needs to be lunamagica Oct 2017 #104

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2017 #44

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #115

Recall Trump has the uncanny ability to project things he has done/is dong/will do onto others... iluvtennis Oct 2017 #16

Trump's campaign maddiemom Oct 2017 #71

Indeed iluvtennis Oct 2017 #87

The "imperfect storm" world wide wally Oct 2017 #28

Yes. The election was stolen. Marthe48 Oct 2017 #31

But we have NO constitutional means to correct such a situation. maddiemom Oct 2017 #75

repugs are Union busters Marthe48 Oct 2017 #83

Or it could be combination of all of the above IronLionZion Oct 2017 #34

If the theft happened (which I believe did), nothing else matters. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2017 #36

Clinton and Obama thought we'd win so big they couldn't steal it IronLionZion Oct 2017 #41

I don't know if they thought that way, I think they felt it would have been close.. JHan Oct 2017 #46

I agree. Stolen at the ballot box.. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #35

It was stolen, again, in various ways, but there were still Alice11111 Oct 2017 #58

how many stolen elections are we going to tolerate? 0rganism Oct 2017 #105

Don't forget misogyny lunamagica Oct 2017 #107

Has there been any concrete evidence of hacked voting machines? xor Oct 2017 #113

To be fair most people thought Trump would lose. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #2

supposedly did... Ligyron Oct 2017 #11

Even Trump didnt think he would win bearsfootball516 Oct 2017 #13

He definitely appeared to accept looming defeat and was surprised he won. I bet he threw up too. Hoyt Oct 2017 #20

Trump didn't WANT to win. maddiemom Oct 2017 #76

It's not your fault, H. yallerdawg Oct 2017 #3

Was Waiting For Someone To Say That ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #91

I still love Hilary louis c Oct 2017 #4

Exactly. He's the king of one thing. RW fantasies. nolabear Oct 2017 #9

People are really obsessed with anti-establishment candidates today. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #10

We are so screwed Motownman78 Oct 2017 #67

I LOVE HILLARY AND I ALWAYS WILL. Trump & the Russians cheated the American people trueblue2007 Oct 2017 #19

The redumbliCONs will do ANYTHING to win, legal or illegal. democratisphere Oct 2017 #8

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2017 #49

Repigs have it in for bdamomma Oct 2017 #72

It has to be painful to "lose" to this complete idiot, but, except for a slave protection clause... NNadir Oct 2017 #14

well stated JHan Oct 2017 #40

I think it lies with us, too. I'm ashamed of myself. LisaM Oct 2017 #101

+1 lunamagica Oct 2017 #108

She underestimated the enemy, not realizing a foreign power was outflanking her. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #15

I sense most of 'us' dint 'know'/have the realization of sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #37

Yes, I agree. Even the most cynical and suspicious could not have seen what was happening. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #89

I feel we were 'trusting' in a way. Not ever expecting sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #94

We underestimated the Russians, and overestimated the patriotism of Trump and GOP. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #95

We expected cheating, but we didnt expect such ignorance Alice11111 Oct 2017 #61

The Comey/FBI action was totally despicable. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #90

Yeah, and more than once. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #96

Putin did not act alone. He had lots of help. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #97

Pretty much was, but once he got in, many of us are calling the baby out. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #98

Why wont she take any responsibility??? Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #17

Hillary will never, ever be able to satisfy those who hate her. Paladin Oct 2017 #18

As posted on Twitter... JaneQPublic Oct 2017 #29

Truer words were never spoken. What might have been. (nt) Paladin Oct 2017 #38

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2017 #51

+1 dalton99a Oct 2017 #82

Oh wow! It hurts that this is so true lunamagica Oct 2017 #109

Bingo. (NT) ehrnst Oct 2017 #116

NO not her fault but bluestarone Oct 2017 #21

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2017 #52

I fully supported Hillary, but IMO we need to be looking forward and not back groundloop Oct 2017 #22

every evening there's news about the "past" because of the russia investigation.. JHan Oct 2017 #42

This is the only time that my aluminum foil hat comes out. And I wear it proudly. mjvpi Oct 2017 #23

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2017 #55

Its refreshing to FINALLY hear her admit this LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #24

"Finally" admit this, she accepted responsibility for much for sometime now. JHan Oct 2017 #43

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2017 #57

Thats a good point LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #93

I supported Bernie Sanders too, and contributed money to his campaign, red dog 1 Oct 2017 #99

I respect your opinion LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #100

Can you tell me how many other presidential candidates have admited responsibility for losing? lunamagica Oct 2017 #110

I also disagree that "on camera she didn't look comfortable at times, and every sentence, every lunamagica Oct 2017 #111

The loss Liberallover976 Oct 2017 #25

I Don't Buy Into the "Blame Women First" Propaganda Machine dlk Oct 2017 #26

She's absolutely right about one thing Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #27

No, the existence of the electoral college is at fault. muntrv Oct 2017 #30

I guess so. You kept telling the truth. Jakes Progress Oct 2017 #32

There was a way to win quakerboy Oct 2017 #33

Well.. JHan Oct 2017 #45

Sometimes quakerboy Oct 2017 #85

Let the Opposition Pick Your Candidate? delisen Oct 2017 #56

And yet thats exactly what we did. quakerboy Oct 2017 #84

The election was stolen with voter suppression Cary Oct 2017 #47

plus Russian influence n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #66

If only I knew how this ends. rainin Oct 2017 #48

Well stated!! red dog 1 Oct 2017 #60

Partly her fault yes Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #53

no Madam President...its OUR fault! samnsara Oct 2017 #59

Exactly!!!!!!!!!! leftofcool Oct 2017 #64

Well said!!! lunamagica Oct 2017 #112

Awful title. She said there were other factors involved as well Pugster Oct 2017 #63

K&R...Thanks for posting, DonViejo red dog 1 Oct 2017 #65

There were many factors bdamomma Oct 2017 #69

Brexit got a MAJORITY of the Popular Vote; Trump Didn't Loyd Oct 2017 #70

What really cost her the election was Rush and the other liars lying about her WhoWoodaKnew Oct 2017 #74

I disagree. Comey was more important than everything else, by far IMO. (eom) StevieM Oct 2017 #77

Had Rush and all the idiots not painted her as the anti-Christ for 30 years WhoWoodaKnew Oct 2017 #79

OR screwing the People's candidate from his TRUE nomination Just Yakov Oct 2017 #78

Ding ding ding! JesterCS Oct 2017 #114

She didn't lose the Presidency - it was stolen from her FakeNoose Oct 2017 #80

treachery is what caused her to lose; nothing else. triron Oct 2017 #86

How to win Liberallover976 Oct 2017 #81

Russia and Republican enablers/co-conspirators Bradical79 Oct 2017 #92

as much as we have all suffered this asshole regime, i'd bet HRC suffers more than most 0rganism Oct 2017 #106