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66. Please stop. Conspiracy against the US is not the same as, even remotely, treason.

Mon Oct 30, 2017, 02:09 PM

Oct 2017

Conspiracy against the US is a crime punishable by up to five years in prison, as defined in 18 US 371, cited in the indictment (which I'm guessing you haven't read).

The indictment makes clear that the crimes that Manafort and Gates are alleged to have conspired to commit are those described in counts 3 through 6 of the indictment (Failure to Report Reports of Foreign Bank and Foreign Financial Accounts for Calendar Years 2011-2014) and counts 10 through 12 (unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, and false statements).

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UPDATED: Manafort, Gates charged with conspiracy against US [View all] PunkinPi Oct 2017 OP

New York Times link BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #1

I wonder if old Wilbur Ross can explain some things, since he was the vice-president of the Bank turbinetree Oct 2017 #19

Roger Stone is right in the middle of it too BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #21

And the kid, daughters and other other halfs, and everyone that was at that convention speaking turbinetree Oct 2017 #29

Kushner is definitely in hot water. BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #32

This bunch haven't figured out that they are just like fish getting thrown on a beach turbinetree Oct 2017 #36

It may be a little worse than that BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #38

I figured him or Flynn Roland99 Oct 2017 #2

This first action may be to prompt Flynn to cooperate as well. BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #3

I wouldn't hold my breath Raven123 Oct 2017 #6

He was his campaign chairman leftynyc Oct 2017 #7

And the GOP in Congress and the Trump voters and the self-proclaimed Raven123 Oct 2017 #14

Let them deny until the cows come home leftynyc Oct 2017 #25

You beat me to it watoos Oct 2017 #30

If it hadn't rained over the weekend BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #39

Well, they CAN claim "witch hunt" and probably still will. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #63

Trump should stop railing against the "deep state"... AntiFascist Oct 2017 #68

If there is any "deep state", SergeStorms Oct 2017 #69

So the successful CEO who ran a reality show based on hiring an employee bronxiteforever Oct 2017 #12

Right. This is big. I hope to see them all behind bars ASAP. liberalnarb Oct 2017 #15

We all know how DT works. Raven123 Oct 2017 #16

The party of personal responsibility deflects blame at every opportunity Roland99 Oct 2017 #20

You mean he is a professional liar! bronxiteforever Oct 2017 #40

Yep. Me, too. Who the heck is Rick Gates? nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #46

More here Roland99 Oct 2017 #48

Thanks! nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #54

Ha! SergeStorms Oct 2017 #70

"They call him Flipper, Flipper ..." SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #73

WaPo to Confirm soon B Stieg Oct 2017 #4

Always say "Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort" Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2017 #5

+1 and the Trump campaign had no contact w/Russia too Botany Oct 2017 #13

+1 harun Oct 2017 #59

Sweet. n/t mobeau69 Oct 2017 #8

It's like Manafort from heaven Blue Owl Oct 2017 #9

I hope he flips Botany Oct 2017 #10

I dont think he will. hamsterjill Oct 2017 #22

I agree. He's a top level criminal who has probably spent a lifetime doing what he does. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #47

I doubt he gives two shits about Donald. briv1016 Oct 2017 #67

Manafort and the fear woundedkarma Oct 2017 #11

Shhhhh, you are giving the GOP a talking point Raven123 Oct 2017 #17

Pence and the Kochs don't need Putin to get done what they need to get done Kolesar Oct 2017 #23

You're focused on the wrong guy leftynyc Oct 2017 #41

your concern orangecrush Oct 2017 #52

Rick Gates is next. n/t mobeau69 Oct 2017 #18

Just because it's such fun to watch again... FailureToCommunicate Oct 2017 #24

ha ha thanks LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #72

Perp walk!!! Perp walk!!!! hamsterjill Oct 2017 #26

Any word on the charges? leftynyc Oct 2017 #27

Manafort & Gates being charged with PunkinPi Oct 2017 #37

Thanks, and Gates leftynyc Oct 2017 #42

Watch Paul Manafort turn himself in IronLionZion Oct 2017 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author mobeau69 Oct 2017 #31

tRump still thinks Donald only selects the best, the very best. (He fires them too.). . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Oct 2017 #34

If it is true that the indictment is over taxes and files now d/t statute of limitations Raven123 Oct 2017 #35

"In all more than $75,000,000 flowed" and $18 million was laundered. Gates benefitted by $3 million. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #43

So, if it goes through Cyprus dhol82 Oct 2017 #50

I could live for 20 years on what he spent on clothes TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #60

He may have sold them or given them away as way to launder money to clothes to cash / obligations.nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #61

Ah, that would make sense n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #62

TREASON orangecrush Oct 2017 #44

Not even close sarisataka Oct 2017 #49

even better orangecrush Oct 2017 #51

several people have written here that Trump can't pardon co-conspirators - they're wrong onenote Oct 2017 #65

"conspiracy against the United States" means what, to you? WinkyDink Oct 2017 #56

It doesn't matter what I think it means sarisataka Oct 2017 #57

TRAITOR! Glimmer of Hope Oct 2017 #45

Expect Fox News to hit the button: "Manafort a guy who did money laundering.... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #53

"conspiracy against the United States"---AKA, TREASON. What might Gorka have to say on THIS? WinkyDink Oct 2017 #55

Please stop. Conspiracy against the US is not the same as, even remotely, treason. onenote Oct 2017 #66

Manafort should sing like a canary IronLionZion Oct 2017 #58

Future Name: Man-in-Fort Dix Loyd Oct 2017 #64

my first meme... TalenaGor Oct 2017 #71